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Tesla is laying off ‘about 9%’ of its workforce as it ‘restructures’ the company

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Re: Tesla is laying off ‘about 9%’ of its workforce as it ‘restructures’ the company

#41

I wonder if some of this is finalizing the digestion of solar city. How many accountants, tech, and office workers did the combine company have that were redundant? Have there been layoffs from the merger (if there were I missed them) - I'm curious to see if this is the end result of that combination.

There were some pretty massive layoffs with the merger already, leading into it, at least according to someone I know who was part of those lay offs.

Re: Tesla is laying off ‘about 9%’ of its workforce as it ‘restructures’ the company

#42
post #3

Claims no production staff were affected. Don't know the employee breakdown but imagine production is a huge portion of it. Hard to believe entire other divisions weren't completely eliminated if production not touched.

could be sales and marketing

Considering demand for product is outstripping their ability to produce product, their sales & marketing teams are setting a high standard of work the rest of the company has yet to meet.

Feels a little unfair if they were the ones getting axed.

Re: Tesla is laying off ‘about 9%’ of its workforce as it ‘restructures’ the company

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post #29

Tesla and SpaceX are businesses and I never understood the public fandom behind them and Elon Musk. 3,500+ people losing their jobs is pretty significant for a leader who touts altruism as one of his top motivators.

You are not going to count all the jobs he created in the first place, and the years of gainful employment those 3500 people had? It’s just all negative in your estimation?

What an oversimplification of my comment. I'll oversimplify it for you so you can't misinterpret it: "This decision he just made is poor and Elon is human just like everyone else"

Re: Tesla is laying off ‘about 9%’ of its workforce as it ‘restructures’ the company

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post #29

Tesla and SpaceX are businesses and I never understood the public fandom behind them and Elon Musk. 3,500+ people losing their jobs is pretty significant for a leader who touts altruism as one of his top motivators.

You are not going to count all the jobs he created in the first place, and the years of gainful employment those 3500 people had? It’s just all negative in your estimation?

the value of those jobs rests on the premise that they created something good. i think the jury is still out on how great tesla's actual products are (aside from entertainment value, which they clearly succeed at)

Re: Tesla is laying off ‘about 9%’ of its workforce as it ‘restructures’ the company

#46
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many tech workers would like their terms of employment, including compensation, to be decided by negotiations between a union and a company?

Can you imagine pay, promotion, and assignment by seniority instead of skill? Doesn't sound very appealing to me.

I don't know where you get that idea from its not my experience working as an M&P grade in a unionised company in the UK.

Re: Tesla is laying off ‘about 9%’ of its workforce as it ‘restructures’ the company

#48
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> illegal efforts Yet to be determined by a court. Precision in language is important, no matter how heated you are about a situation.

Is it imprecise? I can make claims about my worldview. I say the sky is blue. you say the sky is white (cloudy). we can argue about it, but there's no reason for either of us to change our opinion till we look out the window and see what color the sky is. The problem with your standard of saying nothing is illegal till a court rules on it, is we require someone accuse another to trigger the court determination of fac…

>> The problem with your standard of saying nothing is illegal till a court rules on it, is we require someone accuse another to trigger the court determination of fact.

As someone who is involved in multiple IP lawsuits and one other major civil matter, this is exactly how it works. I don't claim people are doing illegal things. I am filing lawsuits against them alleging improper behavior and I let the courts do their job, which is determining legality and harm to parties.

Laymen don't get to decide what is or isn't legal, nor is it a wise decision to accuse people of illegal activities when no fact finding group has found that to be true. Trust me on this one when I say courts really, really don't appreciate that kind of language.

Re: Tesla is laying off ‘about 9%’ of its workforce as it ‘restructures’ the company

#49
post #7

A 9% adjustment isn’t bad against a business that is running as hot as Tesla...

Are they running hot? They're in serious financial trouble and have been unable to meet self-imposed production levels. Now they're laying off thousands of people.
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