Why emergency braking systems sometimes hit parked cars and lane dividers • Hacker News Board

Re: Why emergency braking systems sometimes hit parked cars and lane dividers

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Post by ryzvonusef » Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 5:15 PM UTC

buvanshak wrote: post #108

macspoofing wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only irresponsible car company has been Tesla (and Uber). All the other companies positioned their adaptive systems correctly and very conservatively. Tesla came out and downright asserted their system was autonomous[1]. Predictably, they have since had to scale that back significantly. [1] https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/videos/autopilot-self-driving-ha...

They have also been asked to rename the "Autopilot" feature.. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bertelschmitt/2016/10/14/german...

October 2016...what happened since then? Anybody got an update?

Re: Why emergency braking systems sometimes hit parked cars and lane dividers

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Post by tabtab » Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 5:29 PM UTC

Re: "The fundamental issue here is that tendency to treat lane-keeping, adaptive cruise control, and emergency braking as independent systems."

You won't be competitive with normal human drivers that way. Humans (usually) have to ability to combine many diverse, and potentially conflicting, pieces of info into a coherent story. AI and AI-like automation will need to similarly synthesize diverse clues.

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Post by plankers » Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 2:26 AM UTC

louprado wrote: post #195

plankers wrote: post #185

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There's active disdain (or at least snide jokes) among the senior Waymo engineers for the approach to autonomous driving taken by Tesla. I can't see a partnership in the cards, probably ever. Source: used to work there

How would the engineers at Waymo know Tesla's trade-secret approach beyond the physical hardware ? Tesla is the only major player in the race to autonomous cars that has no patent. Waymo has 145.[1] [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/08/a-tesla-self-driving-blind-s...

Some of them used to work at Tesla. They also take issue with the use of lossy sonar and the failure to incorporate lidar.

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Post by paulie_a » Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 5:19 AM UTC

ZephyrP wrote: post #150

paulie_a wrote: post #32

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Let's be honest, actual mass deployed self driving tech is probably 20 years away at minimum. I personally might be able to enjoy it just before I retire.

Reading this comment (and the many like it) I get the feeling that something essential must be getting left out when we're speaking of the "far-off mass-deployed self-driving tech". Mostly because it directly contradicts my day-to-day experience. I've personally seen a few "self-driving cars" on the streets of SF and I suspect many of you reading this have as well (particularly if you live in the Mission or South Par…

A few sightings in silicon valley is an incredible leap to mass adoption.

And looking at cruise, their website is low grade marketing. Mostly concerned about hiring and not about pushing their actual technology. it's amateur hour honestly.