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Re: Alternatives to Google Products

#421
Anyone know why G Suite (the paid version of Gmail) is not considered private? From the site it says they are encrypted, regularly audited by 3rd parties and not used for ads.

I've used alternatives (namely ProtonMail), but the experience is not as good as Gmail.

https://gsuite.google.com/faq/security/

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#422

Hi all, I'm an engineer working on Firefox Platform (Gecko). In the linked blog post, the author recommends Firefox (thanks!) and links to a "privacy recommendations" for it, which include items such as "resistFingerprinting" settings. I'd like to remind everyone that turning on this setting has far fetched consequences to how you experience the Web. Your dates, timezones, preferred languages will all be masked which…

I don't know, I think if a user is following all of the steps in this article, they likely know what fingerprinting is. Running an Android device without the Play Store, for example, is by far a much more difficult & complicated thing to do than just toggling a flag in a Firefox browser.

That, and the user is likely used to having less-than-ideal browsing experiences if they run any adblockers. I do agree that the article should outline what the consequences would be for disabling browser fingerprinting; they simply have one sentence recommending it, and nothing else.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

#423
My biggest problem with this article is that it doesn’t do anything to address built in tracking google has on many pages. Companies embed little snippets of google JavaScript so they can take advantage of analytics. As a result, google can track you whether you use their products directly or not.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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I have no more trust in the American government to not spy on its citizens than the Chinese government. If iCloud data is encrypted and only the user has the private key. It's just as secure as being on American servers.

Note that only some of your iCloud data is end-to-end encrypted: https://support.apple.com/en-us/ht202303 . The rest is also encrypted, but Apple does have the key and can likely be legally compelled to share it with authorities.

What am I missing? According to the link, everything is encrypted at rest besides email. No one thinks email is secure.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

#425

My biggest problem with this article is that it doesn’t do anything to address built in tracking google has on many pages. Companies embed little snippets of google JavaScript so they can take advantage of analytics. As a result, google can track you whether you use their products directly or not.

Right. I recently had to debug an official app to a quite expensive enterprise application and was shocked that everything you do in that app is logged with Google. When I brought this up with the company they were furious. I think they forced them to add an opt out flag. Or at least they tried.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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> who may be looking may be This is called faith

I agree, though I prefer the word trust; I think in the end most security arguments basically move trust around between entities, so I would either trust the open-source community or Apple. In this case I decided trust the open-source community more than Apple, since the incentives of people inspecting open-source code probably align better with my own interests than the incentives of Apple.

> the incentives of people inspecting open-source code probably align better with my own interests than the incentives of Apple.

The incentives of any people are: earn enough money for a peaceful existence.

When Heartbleed happened, it turned out that only a handful of people in the entire world have the expertise to do a full audit of the OpenSSL code. And their work is ridiculously expensive. And the audit didn't happen until someone paid for it [1] (I'm not entirely sure it ever completed [2]).

People may actually have less incentives to inspect open-source code because there's always the question of life, money, time, work-life balance etc. etc.

[1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/ncc-group-to-audit-openssl-for...

[2] http://isopensslauditedyet.com

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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I haven’t found a replacement for Gmail yet. I’ve tried fastmail and ProtonMail but both have limitations. From a search engine perspective I’ve switched to DuckDuckGo and I’m impressed with how good it has gotten. With maps I’ve tried various solutions including mapquest, Microsoft, and Apple but nothing comes close to Google Maps.

I second those asking what limitations you ran into (specifically with FastMail, since I have more chance of being able to fix those than the limitations with Protonmail - though I'd love to know both!) If it's "costs money", we're not planning to change that! We (FastMail) are proudly a paid-only service.

The biggest thing I've been missing since I started using FastMail is labels. My workflow in GMail used labels pretty heavily, and I've been able to get pretty close using saved searches and folders, but it's not quite the same.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

#428

Hi all, I'm an engineer working on Firefox Platform (Gecko). In the linked blog post, the author recommends Firefox (thanks!) and links to a "privacy recommendations" for it, which include items such as "resistFingerprinting" settings. I'd like to remind everyone that turning on this setting has far fetched consequences to how you experience the Web. Your dates, timezones, preferred languages will all be masked which…

After the constant succession of revelations of the sorry state of privacy, along with myriad data breaches, all I want a browser to do is lie and obfuscate. So I'll gladly take the sledgehammer boolean of resistFingerprinting for now. I've yet to come across an extension that does something like this so I'm presuming it's not possible via extensions? Are Mozilla working to make this more granular and let me whitelis…

> After the constant succession of revelations of the sorry state of privacy, along with myriad data breaches...

I remember reading an article about how Richard Stallman interacts with the internet a while back. I remember thinking that it seemed totally insane. But in light of the reality of 2018, I am coming around. The way I see it, I can keep tweaking privacy settings in a browser, or opting out of collection, or doing any number of other things to attempt to protect my privacy, _or_ I could just stop using services that do not respect my privacy in the first place. Perhaps certain aspects of modern life have taken too much, and they need to be abandoned until they are reformed?

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

#429
I use Nextcloud since a few years now and I have to say I am quite happy.

Sometimes the devs have some awkward attitude towards not supporting the latest stable PHP version with their current version, but overall they do a decent job and every major release brings cool new features. With KDE the desktop integration is quite nice (don't know about other desktops).

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

#430
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Is there a moderate resistFingerprinting setting? I don't mind my date/tz/language being known. There are 150m+ people living in my timezone who use en-US. I don't want my fonts, plugins, user agent, or detailed HW/graphics features (e.g. canvas/WebGL hash) being known. Those can uniquely identify me according to https://panopticlick.eff.org .

That https://panopticlick.eff.org link was interesting, but I don't see what about my user agent string makes it so unique (1: 76540.09) ? Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_13_3) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/67.0.3396.62 Safari/537.36 Looks fairly generic, I think I'm running a mainstream chrome browser on a mainstream OS.

This is amazing, I use Ghostery, Privacy Badger and Scriptsafe in Firefox, and I was MORE private in non-private window! wth?

I suspect it's partly because these plugins don't function fully in a private window?

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