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When does this level of rhetoric approach criminal negligence? From the previous HN discussions about Tesla’s,s running into stationary objects, the problem seems like a fundamental design issue not likely to be fixed with software. This has already killed people. What happens when some poor person relies on Musk’s ‘full autonomy’ and gets killed? Elon Musk is the Elizabeth Holmes of self driving cars.
When does this level of rhetoric approach criminal negligence? From the previous HN discussions about Tesla’s,s running into stationary objects, the problem seems like a fundamental design issue not likely to be fixed with software. This has already killed people. What happens when some poor person relies on Musk’s ‘full autonomy’ and gets killed? Elon Musk is the Elizabeth Holmes of self driving cars.
The headline misquotes Musk. He did not announce full autonomy.
> With V9, we will begin to enable full self-driving features
The caveat ("begin to enable") doesn't change things. You might be at the beginning of pregnancy, but you're fully pregnant.
Does he mean full-autonomy as in: "enter a destination and be done with it"? That would be an amazing jump forward from the current system.
Does he mean full-autonomy as in: "enter a destination and be done with it"? That would be an amazing jump forward from the current system.
Blaming the customer might have worked for regular AutoPilot because of that legal footnote that AutoPilot-the-product is it not intended to be used as autopilot-the-concept, but good luck blaming the customer for a car that was in "full autonomy" mode.
Edit: the timing of this announcement is so very premature, I believe there might be another motive to it. Perhaps Tesla wants to negotiate from a stronger position in the next financing round.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
The headline misquotes Musk. He did not announce full autonomy.
That's exactly what he announced: > With V9, we will begin to enable full self-driving features The caveat ("begin to enable") doesn't change things. You might be at the beginning of pregnancy, but you're fully pregnant.
That would be correct if the Musk quote said they would "begin to enable" full autonomy. That assertion is distinguishable from beginning to enable features related to autonomy.
It could be as simple as extended self parking.
From a software engineering perspective it is an interesting announcement. With all the obvious limitations of the current autopilot, Tesla must have been working on a very different package for full autonomy - we might see a first glimpse of it with that release.