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Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Funny how a website that announces alternatives to Google Products has a flash of unstyled content because it uses... Roboto as the main body font. Roboto is a typeface developed by Google...

Using a font developed by Google doesn't help Google track you. Protecting your privacy != doesn't mean rejecting absolutely everything by Google.

> Using a font developed by Google doesn't help Google track you Oh you bet it does, if you load it from googlefonts.com

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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To me the value is in not having to spell it. When I say @gmail.com no one ever typos that half.

With your own domain, you can shorten the part before the '@'. You could call it "forename@lastname.com" instead of "forename.lastname@gmail.com".

Only if nobody got lastname.com first. My last name is squatted, and the leech will sell it for "only $2995". I later discovered I could get the "lastna.me", but that's prone to be mistyped as well.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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It's not that "privacy-focused" tends to be conflated with FLOSS. Rather, it's nearly impossible to guarantee privacy in proprietary software. The transparency of FLOSS makes it trustless. Want to know what data of yours, if any, is being collected? Look at the code. This is why, when it comes to privacy, Apple isn't worth consideration. All we have is their word, and that simply isn't enough.

> Want to know what data of yours, if any, is being collected? Look at the code. I find this to be an extremely un-compelling position. A relatively small proportion of the general population has the skills to meaningfully look at the code, never mind the time. Moreover, even for someone who is capable, such an exercise quickly becomes non-trivial on an unfamiliar codebase for an app of any complexity. In many cases…

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Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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post #88

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My primary goal of using Google alternatives is to deprive Alphabet of revenue. Privacy benefits are secondary.

Why do you want to deprive Alphabet of revenue, if not for their privacy-disrespecting business model?

Alphabet has several projects that Microsoft does not have a counter-project for and in which my primary ethical concerns are not privacy related.

I'm specifically concerned about their approaches and attitudes on AI and Life Sciences.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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> (particularly for porn) I had not considered Bing a serious competitor to Google's search engine until now.

>> (particularly for porn) > I had not considered Bing a serious competitor to Google's search engine until now. I can’t tell how much humor was intended here, but that’s a serious competitive point that had not occurred to me. Ever. It’s not something that MS could use in a marketing campaign, but could easily sway lots of people to give it a try when they otherwise wouldn’t.

I'm not sure if it was implemented as a 'competitive point' or if Microsoft just has employees that solved the porn search problem for personal use.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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After DDG recently switched to imprecise search, ignoring what I really search for, the same way as Google does for a while, I don't see any use for it anymore. Is there another good alternative for precise search? Thanks

Google, enabling the Verbatim option? You can add "&tbs=li:1" to the search query in your browser or use http://mycroftproject.com/google-search-plugins.html in Firefox.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Why do you want to deprive Alphabet of revenue, if not for their privacy-disrespecting business model?

Read a cyberpunk book. The mega-corp as focal point for resources, innovation and political clout is a scary thought. Consider the almost exclusive dataset they have moated "everyone" else out of, and the long line of disingenuous/unethical business practices. The privacy considerations are the proverbial top of the iceberg.

Do you have any book recommendations?

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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I don't think I quite understand your argument, could you please elaborate a bit? I have always been under the assumption that fame grows linearly with wealth and the more famous someone is the less privacy they hold. Is that inaccurate? I could tell you that Warren Buffet is 1.78 m tall and that I know where he was born but I honestly know nothing about the minimum-wage-working Bob Smith.

If you were to find the most personal details of this Mr. Smith it would be far easier to do that. You could sit outside his house whole day long and observe his every move, dumpster dive into his trash and get documents, even bribe a certain official and get more info out of him/ her. I don't think any of that will be possible in the case of Warren Buffet.

That will be very difficult to do with Warren Buffet because he assumes that people will already be trying to do that. Mr. Smith, on the other hand, knows that he is low profile enough to be ignored among the masses. I fail to see why anyone would spend the time stalking someone who is not wealthy; the return value of finding information on Mr. Smith is not worth the trouble.

If anything, Ad companies would more aggressively target the wealthy because they have more money to spend.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Even if you don't inspect it personally, there's a greater community of people who don't get their paycheck from Apple who may be looking at the code. Regarding the Intel comparison, you have no choice but to trust them, but by using Apple products, you are trusting Intel and Apple, which is worse than just trusting Intel.

> who may be looking may be This is called faith

I agree, though I prefer the word trust; I think in the end most security arguments basically move trust around between entities, so I would either trust the open-source community or Apple.

In this case I decided trust the open-source community more than Apple, since the incentives of people inspecting open-source code probably align better with my own interests than the incentives of Apple.

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