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Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Hi all, I'm an engineer working on Firefox Platform (Gecko). In the linked blog post, the author recommends Firefox (thanks!) and links to a "privacy recommendations" for it, which include items such as "resistFingerprinting" settings. I'd like to remind everyone that turning on this setting has far fetched consequences to how you experience the Web. Your dates, timezones, preferred languages will all be masked which…

Yea, maybe you should prioritize 'ironing' it out.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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post #46

The worst thing, the absolute worst thing is, you know all that but you have gotten so used to the way Google services work, that you simply have a hard time to switch. E.g. thank to Gmail I rarely use an email application on my computer and use webmail. When I tried out Posteo it was extremely annoying that it logged me out every few minutes and I couldn't get my email. They said this couldn't be changed. Google rea…

I haven’t found a replacement for Gmail yet. I’ve tried fastmail and ProtonMail but both have limitations. From a search engine perspective I’ve switched to DuckDuckGo and I’m impressed with how good it has gotten. With maps I’ve tried various solutions including mapquest, Microsoft, and Apple but nothing comes close to Google Maps.

> From a search engine perspective I’ve switched to DuckDuckGo and I’m impressed with how good it has gotten.

I switched to DDG over a year ago and it works great for things that are simple lookups to Wikipedia, IMDB etc. When I have an arcane Windows bug, I end up using "G!". Also DDG isn't that great for latest News but the Image search is pretty good.

I set DDG as the default search on my non-techie wife's new PC earlier this year and she has not once complained about the search qualify.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

#233

Hi all, I'm an engineer working on Firefox Platform (Gecko). In the linked blog post, the author recommends Firefox (thanks!) and links to a "privacy recommendations" for it, which include items such as "resistFingerprinting" settings. I'd like to remind everyone that turning on this setting has far fetched consequences to how you experience the Web. Your dates, timezones, preferred languages will all be masked which…

Yea, maybe you should prioritize 'ironing' it out.

I’m certain they’ll accept help. So maybe go test, report bugs and issues and get involved if that’s a priority for you. Triage some of those weird bug reports. Write a guide on how to properly enable the feature, what it does and what to expect if it’s enabled. Explain what’s a bug and what’s just part of the expected - and sometimes annoying - behavior.

Or just donate if you can’t do any of those things.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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I switched to DuckDuckGo for a while, and noticed I was having trouble finding things. When I then compared specific searches with Google, it was clear to me that I was getting a superior quality of searches with Google. This disappoints me. I would gladly prefer the alternative, but I can’t add many minutes to my day of work trying to find stuff that should be easy.

Advice here is to toss the !g bang on when you think you aren’t getting what you need. AFAIK this is still better than using google itself because the search is from DDG’s servers and not your personal IP (I could be wrong here though)

The !g bang just redirects to you Google with the search query.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the real reason they don't allow custom domains in your opinion? Why do you say they are lying?

Their support replied with a mumbo-jumbo of techno-babble why it's not possible. Of course it's possible. The reason is clear: lock-in. People are reluctant to change providers if they lose their mail address.

The FAQ (https://posteo.de/en/site/faq) says the do it because a domain has personay identifying information in WHOIS and they would need to store it.

I think for .de domains, you are required to have your personal address in WHOIS if you are not a company.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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This is all fine and well, but to be honest, I like how Google integrates all the different products. I get a better experience when search is customized to what is in my email, especially when I search for flight info and it tells me about flights I already have booked, or better yet, flights my in-laws are on that they forwarded to me and I'm now tracking to go pick them up. Sometimes the ads it gives me are so rel…

Stockholm syndrome... :)

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

#237

I'm a little discouraged when I see articles like this that seem to be completely tuned for developers or look over completely decent pro-privacy alternatives like Apple. For example, the "best" calendar alternative is Etar which looks to a Github repo. Really? At the very least you could mention Apple Calendar. Is Maps.Me (which uses AdSense) really better than Apple Maps? I'm not a fan of hooktube either - it just…

Apple is closed source, so we really don't know if they respect our privacy now, and in the future.

Also, they may work with the US government, even if they say otherwise, and people from both the US and other countries may not like that idea.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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post #230

Hi all, I'm an engineer working on Firefox Platform (Gecko). In the linked blog post, the author recommends Firefox (thanks!) and links to a "privacy recommendations" for it, which include items such as "resistFingerprinting" settings. I'd like to remind everyone that turning on this setting has far fetched consequences to how you experience the Web. Your dates, timezones, preferred languages will all be masked which…

Is there a moderate resistFingerprinting setting? I don't mind my date/tz/language being known. There are 150m+ people living in my timezone who use en-US. I don't want my fonts, plugins, user agent, or detailed HW/graphics features (e.g. canvas/WebGL hash) being known. Those can uniquely identify me according to https://panopticlick.eff.org .

Those can uniquely identify me

So does your resolution. And that's hard to mask because JS usually needs to know it.

If you're not using the browser fullscreen, chances are that you're using a unique innerWidth+innerHeight.

As unsatisfying as it is, the current best solution seems to be not to care about privacy most of the time, and then take privacy seriously when you do. Whonix is excellent for this.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Aside from the philosophical argument that is being had in the comment section, there are obvious services missing. Android, for one, because what good are all these alternatives if you run it on a Google OS and then there are the actual moneymakers, namely Adsense/Adwords. What's the alternative for those? Are there any?

For Android, there's Lineage OS and microG

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

#240
We've been working on something that has yet to be added to this list, but I feel it's worth mentioning.

It's a self-hosted OS alternative to Google Analytics, much like Matomo (formerly Piwik) but less focused on developers and way more opinionated in terms of what data is visualized.

It's called Fathom Analytics[1]. Eventually we want to provide a paid hosted option much like what Ghost is offering to make sure we can keep on supporting it. For now, our development efforts are paid out of our own pockets.

[1] https://usefathom.com/

[2] https://github.com/usefathom/fathom

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