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Re: SourceForge's GitHub Importer

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Post by loganabbott »

craftyguy wrote: post #56
giancarlostoro wrote: post #11

Gotta feel bad for SourceForge the new owners reversed the malpractices of its previous owners immediately and yet the damage is permanently done. I'll never understand why some think distributing spyware / malware for money is even remotely right in any way, shape, and form. How is any of it legal half the time...

I feel bad for them because they (naiively?) bought a sinking ship.

I feel bad for you because you (naively?) have no idea about what you're talking about. We bought the ship to save it. You can give us flak if you want, but we felt strongly enough about the projects on SourceForge to put our neck on the line to save it. Didn't see anyone else doing that, despite their complaints.

Re: SourceForge's GitHub Importer

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Post by loganabbott »

exikyut wrote: post #22
jimrandomh wrote: post #3

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It's actually worse than that. As an open-source developer deciding where to host a project, I not only need to trust the host, I also need to expect users to also trust the host. If I expect 10% of potential users to bounce when they see that it's hosted on Sourceforge, well, hosting is enough of a commodity that I have no reason to give up on that 10%.

I think you've unpacked why SF is - sadly - not quite dead, but not quite as alive as it used to be.

I could probably say the same thing about you though

Re: SourceForge's GitHub Importer

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Post by loganabbott »

1123581321 wrote: post #10
throwaway2016a wrote: post #2

Does anyone still use SourceForge after they started embedding adware with their download links? I give them credit for being an early innovator and I know they are under new management as of 2016 and supposedly put that behind them[1] but they have permanently lost my trust. [1] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/06/under...

They’re under different ownership; the new owners were apologetic about that nonsense and stopped it immediately. I don’t want to punish people for buying and fixing venerable Internet infrastructure, so though I was angry about the compromised downloads, I’ve no problem downloading from SourceForge since then.

Thank you for being reasonable

Re: SourceForge's GitHub Importer

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Post by loganabbott »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #34
xyrouter wrote: post #17

Websense blacklisted Sourceforge after the 2013 DevShare debacle. It has remained blacklisted since. It is blacklisted in many other web application firewalls and content gateways too. Sourceforge is inaccessible from many corporate networks due to this. It will remain inaccessible for many more years to come. It's unfortunate how Sourceforge, once a leader in the open source community, lost the trust and reputation…

It's worth pointing out that SourceForge as we knew it back then ceased to exist quite some time ago. SourceForge was sold to DHI Group, Inc. (DICE's parent company) in 2012 and many of the staff were let go as part of the sale. DevShare came into play in 2014 and was originally billed as a way to help open source developers who wanted to sign up earn an income from their open source work. But then it wound up using…

Thanks. Yep we killed the bundled adware and fake download buttons on DAY ONE. Nice to hear that at least some people understand that.

Re: SourceForge's GitHub Importer

#65

Post by loganabbott »

exikyut wrote: post #19
duxup wrote: post #15

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They had to know when they bought it. Can't feel that bad for them, they knew.

Hmm. I wonder what their agenda is. Not assuming absolute malice, but I am really curious.

Our agenda was removing bundled adware and improving user experience. Mystery solved.

Re: SourceForge's GitHub Importer

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Post by tazard »

loganabbott wrote: post #47
scottydelta wrote: post #12

Never trusting SourceForge again. Downloaded FileZilla once and that was it.

We have nothing to do with the previous owners. In fact, FileZilla from their own official site still has a bundled installer, but we made them remove it from SourceForge. SourceForge FileZilla is cleaner than the official site. Check VirusTotal to verify.

That's really interesting. Thanks for pointing this out. You (sourceforge) have been getting a lot of, imo, unfair flack in this thread and I just wanted to say thanks. Honestly sourceforge isn't the first place I think of when I need to host code, but I have downloaded a few projects from there in a past weeks and it was much nicer than I remember. Ill make a point to check it out one of these days :)

Re: SourceForge's GitHub Importer

#67

Post by craftyguy »

loganabbott wrote: post #60
craftyguy wrote: post #58

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... which is exactly what you're expected to say. It's extremely rare to come across any meaningful projects these days that decide to associate themselves with sourceforge.

That just tells me your breadth of knowledge of the open source landscape is limited. You can scroll down this thread to see plenty of big projects still at SourceForge.

Yea, publicly attacking folks is a sure way to get yourself more users! /s

Re: SourceForge's GitHub Importer

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Post by craftyguy »

loganabbott wrote: post #61
craftyguy wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel bad for them because they (naiively?) bought a sinking ship.

I feel bad for you because you (naively?) have no idea about what you're talking about. We bought the ship to save it. You can give us flak if you want, but we felt strongly enough about the projects on SourceForge to put our neck on the line to save it. Didn't see anyone else doing that, despite their complaints.

Yea, publicly attacking folks is a sure way to get yourself more users! /s

Re: SourceForge's GitHub Importer

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Post by true_religion »

craftyguy wrote: post #67
loganabbott wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That just tells me your breadth of knowledge of the open source landscape is limited. You can scroll down this thread to see plenty of big projects still at SourceForge.

Yea, publicly attacking folks is a sure way to get yourself more users! /s

You said his company was permanently cursed. He showed up to cheerfully deny the curse existed, then you called him a liar and said no one important used Sourceforge.

Now you say he is “publically attacking” you just by saying you are wrong.

Ok.

I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt and not believe you.

Re: SourceForge's GitHub Importer

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Post by loganabbott »

craftyguy wrote: post #67
loganabbott wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That just tells me your breadth of knowledge of the open source landscape is limited. You can scroll down this thread to see plenty of big projects still at SourceForge.

Yea, publicly attacking folks is a sure way to get yourself more users! /s

Man, the definition of the word "attack" has really changed recently.
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