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Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Spark for macOS and iOS can do something similar for any mail accessible via IMAP/POP/Exchange.

Spark is notoriously bad for privacy. This is a really poor recommendation given the article.

I am not aware of Readdle doing anything bad or having a bad reputation. How is it bad for privacy, just asking because I’m a regular user and would switch if it’s not good for privacy.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Apple makes its money from expensive hardware. And respecting your privacy and security helps selling it a lot . And they earned trust by being serious about it for a long time.

Uhm 2014 ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICloud_leaks_of_celebrity_phot... By comparaison, while there have been a few issues with Google, for a company that processes so much personal data, their track record is excellent. I can't think of any major personal data leak that could be attributed to Google. Maybe Apple got better within these 4 years, TBH, they most likely did. However, I don't consider 4 years to be…

The iPhone 5s is the first one with a great secure enclave, and it was planned out a lot longer than 4 years ago.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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A French non-profit named Framasoft [1] started a few years ago an effort named "degooglify internet" [2] and provides several open source solutions that you can self-host or use on their (arguably slowish) servers. [1] https://framasoft.org/ [2] https://degooglisons-internet.org/?l=en

I’ve used the freely hosted online spreadsheet from Framasoft. It’s somewhat primitive for today, but gets the job done! It will remain one of my goto solutions to use where I need more privacy.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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This is ridiculous. It is the same company, Ads driven company, you're expecting to be nice just because you paid few dollars.

No, the G Suite product has a clearly defined privacy policy that's quite different to the usual Google one. If Google violates it they'll be liable to be sued for millions, at the least. It's not "expecting to be nice", it's "entering into a legal and business relationship that stipulates niceness".

Could not find full GSuite policy, hmm. The best I got is [1]. They do scan stuff, and for a long (con:) game, it is priceless. They'll have your kids school scores for example.

scan and index your data to provide you with your services and to protect your data, such as to perform spam and malware detection, to sort email for features like Priority Inbox and to return fast, powerful search results when users search for information in their accounts.

[1] support.google.com/googlecloud/answer/6056650

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Recently I started shelling out $25 a month for a G-Suite account. I wish I could have kept my @gmail email address, as I think your own vanity URL looks a little tacky, but oh well. Anyway, for privacy but also security it’s been amazing. DKIM, DMARC, SPF, and S/MIME for mail. All attachments are executed in a special sandbox before moving to your inbox (delays mail a little bit). None of my personal data / content…

> None of my personal data / content is scanned or looked at (I think?) How can you say "for privacy [...] it's been amazing" if you haven't even checked? They do say "Google does not collect, scan, or use your data in G Suite services for advertising purposes" and "Google does not sell [your] data to third parties" which mostly covers it, though (although ideally they'd strengthen the wording in the first part to sa…

If it's worth anything, G Suite products are HIPAA and FedRAMP compliant.

https://gsuite.google.com/learn-more/security/security-white...

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Can you elaborate on the limitations you experienced with fastmail and protonmail?

I have used Fastmail for years with a custom domain without a single problem. Amazingly great communications from the company too. Highly recommended but not free. (Less than $2/month though - so almost free.)

Are you sure about that price? It looks like it’s $50 per year allowing for custom domain, $30 without.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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I don't disagree that Apple looks really good nowadays from a privacy perspective. They treat their customers with respect and don't sell their data.... until they do. How can you trust a single point of failure to "do no evil"?

Apple doesn't have the data that Google et al has. All of the ML that apple does for example is done on-device or is privatized [0]. This goes for all of their services that Google has built their business off of: Messages, Siri, Maps, etc. People don't respect Apple's security because they trust Apple, they respect it because Apple has intentionally shot themselves in the foot if they wished to sell their data in th…

> Apple doesn't have the data that Google et al has.

Huh? Apple potentially has everything on the device, just as Microsoft does. Maybe they don't touch it, at least intentionally, out of respect (or just prudence). But if I recall correctly, they accidentally logged all Safari URLs for a while.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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I used to be a privacy advocate until I realized the futility of trying to thwart the data collectors. Our Information is everywhere whether we like it or not and the only way to avoid its aggregation is by not associating with the world and abandoning the convenience of modern technology. I feel like at some point we just have to accept the loss of privacy to gain better harmony within our communities.

I would recommend The Transparent Society by David Brin to anyone interested in this matter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transparent_Society

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Recently I started shelling out $25 a month for a G-Suite account. I wish I could have kept my @gmail email address, as I think your own vanity URL looks a little tacky, but oh well. Anyway, for privacy but also security it’s been amazing. DKIM, DMARC, SPF, and S/MIME for mail. All attachments are executed in a special sandbox before moving to your inbox (delays mail a little bit). None of my personal data / content…

I’m not sure what you mean, isn’t your experience using G Suite as a paid service?

I think the parent means, why don't they move away from ads in general to get their revenue from paid services, like gsuite.
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