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Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

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Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

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Post by maym86 »

silverlake wrote: post #16
maym86 wrote: post #6

Generally I have always hated the argument that anyone opposed to anything needs to have a better solution before their opinion is valid and will be taken into account. Sometimes it's clear how a particular solution is negative but beyond that we don't have the breath or depth of knowledge to suggest the alternative or it is not our job to spend the time to come up with one. Yet we may have enough experience in a par…

There often isn’t a good solution, only a bunch of “bad” solutions. Pointing out that they are bad is useless to everyone. GitHub wanted to be a successful independent company. That failed. What is the next least bad solution before bankruptcy?

> Pointing out that they are bad is useless to everyone.

Only if the people making the decision are comptent and already considered the issues.

Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

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Post by berbec »

> it was ultimately Netscape's failure to respond to Internet Explorer 4, 5, and 6's speed, relative stability, and superior (though still poor) standards compliance that won the browser war

The monoploist practice of bundling the browser with the OS isn't to blame at all?!

Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

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Post by slowmovintarget »

silverlake wrote: post #16
maym86 wrote: post #6

Generally I have always hated the argument that anyone opposed to anything needs to have a better solution before their opinion is valid and will be taken into account. Sometimes it's clear how a particular solution is negative but beyond that we don't have the breath or depth of knowledge to suggest the alternative or it is not our job to spend the time to come up with one. Yet we may have enough experience in a par…

There often isn’t a good solution, only a bunch of “bad” solutions. Pointing out that they are bad is useless to everyone. GitHub wanted to be a successful independent company. That failed. What is the next least bad solution before bankruptcy?

> Pointing out that they are bad is useless to everyone.

This is false.

Some people may not have given the matter consideration. When they don't they may accept the bad solution as normal, and "normal" often rightly or wrongly leads people to jump to the conclusion that the solution is proper. I've many times had to argue against something where the argument in favor was "we've always done it that way."

Pointing out that a solution is bad records challenges that can be met and satisfied in producing a new solution. But if no one notices, or those who do never say anything, then people will tend to assume it is normal and therefore proper.

Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

ggregoire wrote: post #14

I’m still not sure why people are complaining. MS is the biggest contributor on GitHub, and VSCode/TypeScript are exemplary pieces of open source projects. Maybe we should wait and see before bashing MS and migrating everything on another centralized for-profit platform?

> I’m still not sure why people are complaining.

Of course you know why as the arguments of both sides were presented here ad nauseam, you just aren't convinced by them. In short, people who witnessed faul play by Microsoft that lasted for many years and their attitude towards users as presented in Windows 10 aren't convinced they should be the owner of GitHub.

Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

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Post by inks »

wpdev_63 wrote: post #3

People need to realize that google could have bought it. Think about it.

Google could have bought it; but look at the products it buys.. they either make it google only, incredibly intrusive into your personal life, and primed with adverts, and then shuts down after. The only way to make sure a company dies is for google to buy it.

Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

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Post by RestlessMind »

inks wrote: post #27
wpdev_63 wrote: post #3

People need to realize that google could have bought it. Think about it.

Google could have bought it; but look at the products it buys.. they either make it google only, incredibly intrusive into your personal life, and primed with adverts, and then shuts down after. The only way to make sure a company dies is for google to buy it.

Gee.. I didn't know Android, YouTube or Where 2 technologies (i.e. Google maps) are dead already.

/s

Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

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Post by prisionif »

berbec wrote: post #22

> it was ultimately Netscape's failure to respond to Internet Explorer 4, 5, and 6's speed, relative stability, and superior (though still poor) standards compliance that won the browser war The monoploist practice of bundling the browser with the OS isn't to blame at all?!

exactly, the USA had a case of antitrust against Microsoft for doing that. The whole world is aware of that except that "journalist".
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