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Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

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Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

#11

GitHub was a bad solution for FLOSS projects already, it just became so much clearer now.

I always thought people posting content on Tumblr/Medium/WordPress were making a mistake, that they were getting very little in return for their work. It's starting to become clear that hosting your project on someone else's servers has many of the same issues.

Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

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I’m still not sure why people are complaining.

MS is the biggest contributor on GitHub, and VSCode/TypeScript are exemplary pieces of open source projects.

Maybe we should wait and see before bashing MS and migrating everything on another centralized for-profit platform?

Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

#15
Aah, Peter Bright (the resident MS promoter) and arstechnica.

I still have bad memories of those two from time when Windows 8 was released. Immediately before the release, arstechnica instituted down-voting. Then, upon release there were a flurry of articles (Mostly from Bright) talking about how great Windows 8 was, what a game changer etc. etc. In the comments anyone questioning the validity of that view was downvoted out of site.

Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

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Generally I have always hated the argument that anyone opposed to anything needs to have a better solution before their opinion is valid and will be taken into account. Sometimes it's clear how a particular solution is negative but beyond that we don't have the breath or depth of knowledge to suggest the alternative or it is not our job to spend the time to come up with one. Yet we may have enough experience in a par…

There often isn’t a good solution, only a bunch of “bad” solutions. Pointing out that they are bad is useless to everyone. GitHub wanted to be a successful independent company. That failed. What is the next least bad solution before bankruptcy?

Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

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A better solution would have been to drive more users to paid accounts.

Microsoft buying them doesn't even solve the problem that they're not financially viable right now. Unless cutting HR and other support roles is enough to bump them to profitability, but I doubt it.

At this point it's too late, though, because this sale is a direct consequence of them taking VC funding a few years back. How was a website for hosting source code ever going to satisfy venture capitalists looking for a big pay out?

Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

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"You can't complain until you provide something better" is one of the oldest bullshit arguments in the book. If I go to a doctor with an ailment, or the Agora with a public grievance, the notion of admitting and communicating that there's a problem is an essential step. Identifying etiologies, goals, and solutions ("getting there from here") are also necessary, but independent steps that need not be initiated or acco…

GitHub, Inc. is a for-profit organization too, as are its biggest competitors. If you're concerned about the interaction between profit and code hosting, that doesn't have much to do with this acquisition.

Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

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Of course critics of GitHub's acquisition have indeed offered a better solution in the form of Microsoft not buying GitHub.

Beyond that though, the article encourages and exemplifies the most blatant form of armchair CEO-ing.

The tech press has gleaned clicks from their fawning yet resigned corporate strategy fantasies for so long that now their headlines straight up demand that mentality from their readers.

Re: Everyone complaining about MS buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution

#20

GitHub was a bad solution for FLOSS projects already, it just became so much clearer now.

I always thought people posting content on Tumblr/Medium/WordPress were making a mistake, that they were getting very little in return for their work. It's starting to become clear that hosting your project on someone else's servers has many of the same issues.

GitHub provides a central, well-known "hub" for code collaboration. Due to its success and popularity, it has achieved a network effect that is really difficult to replicate. (Google wasn't able to do it.) If GitHub were to go away or deterioriate in some way, something else would inevitably take its place.

Putting your project on github is the best way to ensure that you have the largest possible number of eyes on it. And if something better comes along, you can always copy your repo there. I don't see what you lose by hosting on github.

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