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Re: Show HN: Interactive guitar scales diagrams

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Damn I'm not seeing anything other than the navigation and a red footer, in Firefox on latest Android.

sorry about that, just downloaded firefox on android and for me it does render the fretboard but it only takes like 1/3 of the screen. Will look into it asap.

No problem at all, excited to check it out all the same when I get back to my laptop.

Re: Show HN: Interactive guitar scales diagrams

#72
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Pretty cool! I made something like this a few years ago, but nowhere near as sophisticated. One suggestion: as of late I've been playing guitar in perfect 4ths tuning, and it would be helpful to be able to change the tuning of individual strings on your tool to enable that (and any other alternate tuning)

What kind of music do you play and how do you like the new tuning so far? Were there any unexpected difficulties or benefits?

I would be hard pressed to come up with a coherent genre for what I play, I guess it's really a hodge-podge of everything I've been exposed to musically.

I like it a lot. I'd say I play 95% in P4 now, after starting about 3 months ago. I keep another guitar tuned standard right next to it, and find myself reaching for it less and less the more I get used to it. If you know standard tuning well, most of the work is just a matter of reprogramming your muscles.

The biggest trade off is that all your open and barre chords are gone (there are open and barre chords in P4, but many of them are hard to play and none of them are straight equivalents to what you have in standard--the other side of that is that some unusual chords are now easier, so it's a good way to experience a different flavor), so if you play music that relies on those you have to make a big adjustment. That can be an opportunity, since now you have to get creative with how you play. A chord over 3 or 4 strings doesn't sound as huge or sparkly as an open chord, for example, but it can be interesting in its own right and of course it also opens up some sonic room if you're into layering many parts together.

The biggest gain is that the scales and chords you learn are now always the same without that b-string bump. A lot of things just have less mental overhead now. The benefits sound less tangible than the drawbacks, I know, but I think it's worth a try. It's pretty easy, just tune your two highest strings up a semitone. And easy to go back if you hate it, of course.

Re: Show HN: Interactive guitar scales diagrams

#73
Nice work. I like it.

Some suggestions:

* Can we have an option to show the note names (A, Bb, B etc.) instead of the relative scale positions? Crucial for learning the actual fingerboard notes IMO. You may already have it there, but I may have missed it. (Ability to toggle between the two would be fantastic).

* Fingerboard markers are not as obvious as I would like. I was looking for fret numbers actually, and then eventually noticed you had fingerboard markers - but the light grey make them hard to see. (And what to the black/gold dot markers denote?). I am used to seeing bright, consistent fingerboard markers on my guitars.

* Having stared at guitar fretboard for > 40 years from all angles, I always have a hard time when I see fretboard diagrams with constant spacing between the frets. Makes it harder for me to visualise exactly where it is on the neck that I need to start. May I suggest an option to show a scaled neck (doesn't have to be exact, just an approximation of wider spacing at the nut and narrower towards the bridge) just so it becomes easier to relate the position to an actual guitar neck? (Also make the 12 fret really REALLY obvious so you know where the repetitions start).

But aside from these, I think this is brilliant and I have bookmarked it for future reference.

EDIT: Scratch my first suggestion above :D - I see you already have a note/position toggle along the bottom!

Re: Show HN: Interactive guitar scales diagrams

#74
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I'm quite familiar with the music theory behind all of the scales, having played instruments for over 30 years, but I'm not finding the information display or interface to be very intuitive.

could you be any more constructive, I mean, which parts are confusing / none intuitive?

I'm having a hard time looking at the scale and making sense of it without having to orient myself and think about it a lot. I think this could be fixed with a different visual display, such as less or different colors and more contrast.

I also wasn't sure what effect some of the controls were having, but I think it might be because I am on my phone.

Re: Show HN: Interactive guitar scales diagrams

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you say a little more? I think I understand the "scaler" and it's how I learned the scales and how I practice, but I'm curious what the pentanizer is suggesting to do. Picking a root and an interval and finding it all over the fretboard?

This may help: https://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar_Theory/comments/8c1s9i/penta... There is a youtube link video link included which explains the concept.

That’s pretty awesome - I hadn’t seen it before. Thanks for the link!

Re: Show HN: Interactive guitar scales diagrams

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's give it a shot. So first I have marked "Pentatonic Minor" and "A" as our key since this is probably a scale that you know. What you are seeing are all the notes in the scale laid out on the fret board. If you look at fret 5 (second dot) and starting from the E string you'll see a red dot with a R in it. This is the "Root" of the scale, namely A. The next note is on the 8th fret and has a "b3" in it. You read th…

I had understood what the diagram means, actually I have most of this information internalized... not a great guitar player, but I know the theory. What I don't understand is what can I do with it. What's the typical way of using it?

Listen to some Albert King or Stevie Ray Vaughan, both masters of this scale and the related blues scale.

The Sky is Crying is a standout example.

Re: Show HN: Interactive guitar scales diagrams

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The last row of buttons don't work on mobile (they don't update the view)

to be honest, I targeted desktop audience, and running linux (and android) myself, I am bit limited in this (testing) area. I might be getting an iOSmac device soon so that might help. What browser/OS are you using?

iOS/safari

Re: Show HN: Interactive guitar scales diagrams

#79
This is amazing! Looking at this I learned and realized a lot of patterns that I never really considered before.

One thing about the UX of it - because you haven't gotten enough feedbsck on that already; a demo of how the scales work would be cool. E.g., perhaps on first load, the scales could play for one section automatically starting from the bottom string and then going up. Then I think people could realize what the dots represent, the colors, and how it all ties together.

Well done! I'm curious to know how all this works from a math/theory perspective, but not curious enough to get in over my head :)

Re: Show HN: Interactive guitar scales diagrams

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Professional guitar teacher here. I had to look for a few minutes myself before this started making some sense. I'm sorry to say that I can't feed to this to my students as it is. On one hand, it's extremely information dense. All the colors! On the other hand, it seems to lack crucial information that might make it worthwile. Sorry if that sounds very negative. I do appreciate the effort a lot! And I di see potentia…

Self-taught (shitty) guitar player here. The diagram made perfect sense to me. In fact, I sketched a diagram like that when I was practicing playing every scale in every position. First I noticed that each pentatonic scale shape has 2 minor third intervals and 3 major second intervals on five strings (sixth string is always the same as first) and they kind of "loop around". And if you put the five possible shapes sid…

Sounds like something described here? https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?sho...
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