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Doesn't seem to be a working emergency braking system, as those poor souls who plowed into stationary obstacles found out.
Supposedly automated braking is only in effect when the "driving assustance package"* is enabled in Teslas. *autopilot
Until I read this article, I thought that the all-optical adaptive cruise control system of my BMW i3 was clearly inferior to modern radar-based gear. I now see at least one use case -- stationary objects -- where the i3 setup has an edge. (But the i3 setup suffers mightily in low-contrast and low-sun-angle scenarios.)
But, yes, the i3 and Subaru have optical AEB that works great. Something people like to gloss over again and again in these discussions while talking about radar's limitations (and ignoring that the Model 3 has under-utilized forward facing optical cameras).
I still don't get why do Autocrasher systems think it's better to ignore stationary objects even whey it's driving towards it at a high speed! Sure, slamming in the brakes is a bad idea. This doesn't mean the system can't start to slow down or change the direction of the car.
The big difference is that people who drive those cars do not generally expect that their cars are self-driving. Tesla owners do seem to expect that, and consequently the decisions made about trade-offs for, say, automatic braking in a Honda Accord are not the right decisions for a Tesla Model S.
The bottom line is this: if people think their cars can drive themselves, the cars really need to be able to do that or there are going to be crashes.
What this shows is that Tesla isn’t even on the path to self-driving technology. It sounds like “Autopilot” has no world model (or an extremely basic one)—it ignores stationary objects because it can’t tell whether it’s approaching something on the side of a road that curves away versus an obstacle in the lane. It can’t tell because it doesn’t know what the car is going to do and what the lane is going to do. That’s…
Let's be honest, actual mass deployed self driving tech is probably 20 years away at minimum. I personally might be able to enjoy it just before I retire.
>Not only might it take much longer to arrive than the company has ever indicated—as long as 30 years, said Urmson—but the early commercial versions might well be limited to certain geographies and weather conditions. Self-driving cars are much easier to engineer for sunny weather and wide-open roads, and Urmson suggested the cars might be sold for those markets first.
Urmson put it this way in his speech. "How quickly can we get this into people's hands? If you read the papers, you see maybe it's three years, maybe it's thirty years. And I am here to tell you that honestly, it's a bit of both."
He went on to say, "this technology is almost certainly going to come out incrementally. We imagine we are going to find places where the weather is good, where the roads are easy to drive — the technology might come there first. And then once we have confidence with that, we will move to more challenging locations."
https://web.archive.org/web/20160422140357/https://spectrum....
Perhaps we need to regulate how driver assistance is sold so that people don't accidentally think they can just keep their eyes off the road?
What this shows is that Tesla isn’t even on the path to self-driving technology. It sounds like “Autopilot” has no world model (or an extremely basic one)—it ignores stationary objects because it can’t tell whether it’s approaching something on the side of a road that curves away versus an obstacle in the lane. It can’t tell because it doesn’t know what the car is going to do and what the lane is going to do. That’s…
Let's be honest, actual mass deployed self driving tech is probably 20 years away at minimum. I personally might be able to enjoy it just before I retire.
Using US fatality rates you would expect ~34 deaths from that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_safety_in_the... Edit, my numbers where low.
So, as far as I can tell they are close to human safty though perhaps not up to defensive driver in good conditions safe.
What this shows is that Tesla isn’t even on the path to self-driving technology. It sounds like “Autopilot” has no world model (or an extremely basic one)—it ignores stationary objects because it can’t tell whether it’s approaching something on the side of a road that curves away versus an obstacle in the lane. It can’t tell because it doesn’t know what the car is going to do and what the lane is going to do. That’s…
Let's be honest, actual mass deployed self driving tech is probably 20 years away at minimum. I personally might be able to enjoy it just before I retire.