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The ties between Silicon Valley and the military run deep

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Re: The ties between Silicon Valley and the military run deep

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Everyone acts like military research is obviously evil. Is it really so terrible to research arms for the people who risk their lives keep us safe?

>Is it really so terrible to research arms for the people who risk their lives keep us safe?

At best, it's a zero-sum trap. We need to research new weapons because they are researching new weapons because we are researching new weapons.

Re: The ties between Silicon Valley and the military run deep

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Everyone acts like military research is obviously evil. Is it really so terrible to research arms for the people who risk their lives keep us safe?

"evil" assume we attach a moral judgment to the people in the military.

But personally I don't. I understand why they do it. I understand the cost. I know the pros and the cons. I don't have a hate for people in the military.

I'm not even against weapons, after all I go to the shooting range.

I just don't want to have anything to do with the activity of war and I'm lucky enough to have life currently giving me the freedom to do so.

Re: The ties between Silicon Valley and the military run deep

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Everyone acts like military research is obviously evil. Is it really so terrible to research arms for the people who risk their lives keep us safe?

> Is it really so terrible to research arms for the people who risk their lives keep us safe?

If this was the only thing the weapons were used for, then maybe people wouldn't be upset about this kind of stuff.

The same arms will however also be used to extrajudicially assassinate people based on nothing else than their phone signal, in countries we are not at war with; they might be sold to regimes like Saudi Arabia that kills countless civilians in places like Yemen; they might be used to fight wars based on reasons the administration knows to be false; they might be used to gun down civilians by private contractors; the list goes on.

I'd not be opposed to participating in military research if the weapons were actually used "responsibly" (I know that's a somewhat subjective terms, but most of my examples are quite clearly considered immoral by most people).

Re: The ties between Silicon Valley and the military run deep

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Everyone acts like military research is obviously evil. Is it really so terrible to research arms for the people who risk their lives keep us safe?

safe from all of those naked starving vietnamese peasants on the other side of the earth?

Re: The ties between Silicon Valley and the military run deep

#17

Everyone acts like military research is obviously evil. Is it really so terrible to research arms for the people who risk their lives keep us safe?

> Is it really so terrible to research arms for the people who risk their lives keep us safe? Does this apply to Iranians doing the same thing for their country?

Does this apply to Iranians doing the same thing for their country?

Or Iranian vloggers on Youtube whose content is being fed into the machine?

Re: The ties between Silicon Valley and the military run deep

#18

Everyone acts like military research is obviously evil. Is it really so terrible to research arms for the people who risk their lives keep us safe?

Everyone acts like military research is obviously evil.

I don't think the military is evil, or that military research is inherently wrong, or anything like that. I just think Google needs to be honest about it upfront. Let them change their terms and conditions to state "We are an American company serving American national interests and by using our services you consent to your data being used for this purpose". But they are being deeply disingenuous, and that is what is annoying people, not the military aspect per se.

Re: The ties between Silicon Valley and the military run deep

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Everyone acts like military research is obviously evil. Is it really so terrible to research arms for the people who risk their lives keep us safe?

Who is us and keeping safe from whom ?

Us are us. Whom are enemy.
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