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Scooters littering US city streets alarm: 'Unlock me or I'll call the police'

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Re: Scooters littering US city streets alarm: 'Unlock me or I'll call the police'

#91
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I don't really see the racism slant the article is trying to paint all over this stupidity.

Because there isn't a systemic problem with people who look like you getting shot for no reason when they talk to the police.

Nor isn't for anyone else.

There is a systemic problem with certain ethnicities propensity for crime - hence violent interactions with the police that happen as a result.

Most cases the media publicizes turn out to be flat lies, such as the 'hands up, don't shoot'.

Re: Scooters littering US city streets alarm: 'Unlock me or I'll call the police'

#92

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No it isn't. We give free space to cars, trucks and bicycles. Why not scooters? Is it because they are owned by a corporation? If so should rental cars and car shares be banned?

We, as a society , have decided to give space to cars, trucks, and bicycles, generally in a controlled fashion. If I randomly leave any of them in the middle of the street or sidewalk, they'll be ticketed, towed, or removed.

In the last 24 hours I've had to dodge 5 illegaly parked cars in the bike lane. Only one had a ticket. If you randomly leave any of them in the middle of the street or sidewalk there are very narrow odds that they'll be ticketed, towed, or removed.

Re: Scooters littering US city streets alarm: 'Unlock me or I'll call the police'

#93

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You'd first call insurance the moment you caught someone in the act? So, let's get this straight: it would be an improvement for the scooters to blast: "Don't steal me, or else I will call the insurance company to be replaced".

Possibly! First, in this particular case, I'd doubt my ability to determine if I'm actually seeing a theft in progress. I've used Starbucks mobile ordering and always feel like someone's gonna think I'm stealing stuff - it's a weird experience. Second, calling the cops for a property crime like theft/vandalism is something I'm not 100% comfortable with. I've got insurance on my stuff, I think our prison system sucks…

Surely you realize you adopt a more anarcho-libertarian stance than most people?

Also how do you weigh the risk that a criminal will do physical harm to you (or their next victim) versus the risk that the police do physical harm to them?

Re: Scooters littering US city streets alarm: 'Unlock me or I'll call the police'

#94

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You'd first call insurance the moment you caught someone in the act? So, let's get this straight: it would be an improvement for the scooters to blast: "Don't steal me, or else I will call the insurance company to be replaced".

Possibly! First, in this particular case, I'd doubt my ability to determine if I'm actually seeing a theft in progress. I've used Starbucks mobile ordering and always feel like someone's gonna think I'm stealing stuff - it's a weird experience. Second, calling the cops for a property crime like theft/vandalism is something I'm not 100% comfortable with. I've got insurance on my stuff, I think our prison system sucks…

You'll need a police report to file an insurance claim.

Re: Scooters littering US city streets alarm: 'Unlock me or I'll call the police'

#95
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Yep, it happens in SF. I've walked by several encampments and they're getting parted out fast.

Uber will end up winning by being able to lose the most scooters and replace them the fastest.

They'll lose money on every one, but they'll make it up in volume.

Re: Scooters littering US city streets alarm: 'Unlock me or I'll call the police'

#96

> “This is not only an annoying noise, this is a threat to people. For black people, that can really be experienced as a death threat,” This is so effed up it's beyond words. > said Kaplan, who is crafting legislation to regulate the scooters and now plans to add a proposal to prohibit loud noises and threats. Sure that's the right way to approach the problem of black people fearing for their lives every time anyone…

These are two separate problems. Kaplan is trying to address one issue. That didn't mean the other issue isn't also being addressed. Even if you solved the issue of people fearing for their lives, the other issue still exists and needs to be addressed.

Re: Scooters littering US city streets alarm: 'Unlock me or I'll call the police'

#97
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post #68

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If it was truly abandoned, maybe. However if the scooter is alerting that its being stolen its probably not abandoned... We're not talking about sitting somewhere for a week, more like a couple hours, I doubt you'll find anyone who reasonably thinks thats abandoned.

I don't think you understand the scale at which these scooters are left.

I live in San Francisco, I understand the problem well. The scale is irrelevant to the property issue.
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