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Current Inflation Has Different Effects on Different Age Groups

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Re: Current Inflation Has Different Effects on Different Age Groups

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High marginal income tax rates are designed to keep you from building wealth-- the capital-holding classes don't want the competition for assets.

Income tax rates are not the problem, stagnating wages are the problem.

High marginal tax rates create a major barrier for building wealth.

Re: Current Inflation Has Different Effects on Different Age Groups

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I wonder how much higher it would be if medical costs were taken out. Housing is the biggest problem for my generation, but it gets almost no traction nor solution.

Housing is largely a problem to do with interest rates and mortgages inflating the land. The actual construction materials themselves (at least here in Canada) aren't too bad. I keep wondering why someone doesn't kickstarter a town. It has all the right incentives. Make guidelines that enforce density in the core and do common sense things from day 1, like wire fibre to every domicile.

There are already quite a few cheap places people could move to. But the demand is increasingly geographically concentrated, instead.

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I feel like technology has led to such an efficient form of capitalism over the past 20 years, that there's no room left for any possibility of social mobility. It's this system where there is just enough room for you to live and get by, but never get ahead. Prices for everything are so efficiently optimized at this point that there is no more "wiggle room" for a working person to build wealth. The basic necessities…

High marginal income tax rates are designed to keep you from building wealth-- the capital-holding classes don't want the competition for assets.

That's because income tax for workers is a tax on revenue. The rich are taxed on capital gains - which is a tax on profit.

As it turns out, getting taxed on revenue is far more punishing.

Re: Current Inflation Has Different Effects on Different Age Groups

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This is a great example of how you can make up anything by aggregating unrelated statistical measures and then mislead people with a new definition on top of another woozy commonly used definition.

It's also a great example of using statistics to create a conclusion that fits a narrative, based upon statistically insignificant behavior. This article is entitled, "Over the Past 5 Years, Inflation for Millennials was 14% Higher than for Baby Boomers". Yet, we find out in the last paragraph, indeed in the final sentence, that there is virtually no difference between groups over a longer, more significant period of…

Their use of the word significantly in this context does not refer to statistical significance. The percentages you are referring too are just basic metrics based on the last years data, not something that was t-tested. The longer time period changes the starting index, it doesn't really make this type of analysis more or or less statistically significant. As the author alluded, this could mean that economic mechanisms close this gap over time when it appears, or it could be a recent effect. Your criticism isn't really valid.

Re: Current Inflation Has Different Effects on Different Age Groups

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Where do you live, and what on earth are you spending your money on? Housing may be absurdly costly in many cities but $5.5k a month after tax (assuming you're American) is enough to do much better than "barely ok" almost anywhere. Are you significantly in debt or living above your means?

>Where do you live, and what on earth are you spending your money on? Bay area ~$5,000 net monthly $2500 Rent/PGE $1000 Car/Insurance/Gas/Parking/Phone/Internet $500 Food/Clothing $500 IRA That leaves ~$500 monthly discretionary income, which I usually try to save as much as possible but inevitably gets eaten up by all the stupid little things in life that cost too much nowadays. I can't even imagine supporting a fam…

That is definitely a localized phenomenon. I don't live in the Valley and my expenses are generally lower than that. (Or at least they are if I translate my expenses into single life. Though my "rent"/mortgage is just straight-up lower than that and you'd probably cry to see what I get for it.)

I tend to agree with you. In your position, you need to really want to live in SV for it to be worth it; you're paying a huge premium for the benefit of paying that huge premium.

Re: Current Inflation Has Different Effects on Different Age Groups

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do you live, and what on earth are you spending your money on? Housing may be absurdly costly in many cities but $5.5k a month after tax (assuming you're American) is enough to do much better than "barely ok" almost anywhere. Are you significantly in debt or living above your means?

>Where do you live, and what on earth are you spending your money on? Bay area ~$5,000 net monthly $2500 Rent/PGE $1000 Car/Insurance/Gas/Parking/Phone/Internet $500 Food/Clothing $500 IRA That leaves ~$500 monthly discretionary income, which I usually try to save as much as possible but inevitably gets eaten up by all the stupid little things in life that cost too much nowadays. I can't even imagine supporting a fam…

Living the Bay Area and paying $2,500 for rent, you have $1,000 net discretionary income. Even if you decide not to shrink your expenses or grow your income, you are still in a great position.

PS One day you will realize that things you once thought important are actually unimportant. If you keep saving for that day, you will be in fine shape. There is no need for angst, today. If I might make a recommendation - run some numbers as to where you will be if you decrease your expenses, increase your income, save more, etc. Do all that, forecasting for a set period of time, and do not pay any financial advisors or ask anyone else. Just use your own efforts to investigate. If you do that, I believe you will make the best decision for what to do.

Re: Current Inflation Has Different Effects on Different Age Groups

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This strikes me as lazy data science and full of overreaching conclusions, because nowhere is uncertainty/spread/variance discussed. What are the errors/variance on these estimations for each year and each spending category? Are these inflation differences statistically significantly different? Comparing 7% vs 8% is already cutting it close without even knowing this crucial information. The headline vastly oversteps the analysis itself, there is simply not enough information presented to make these conclusions.

This is one reason why peer-review is essential. This author can throw out a claim like millenials get inflation 14% worse than everyone else, failing to mention it's a difference of 1% over 7-8%, and moreover he did not even look at variance or statistical significance. This would not pass muster in a statistics 101 course, never mind a reputable journal.

Re: Current Inflation Has Different Effects on Different Age Groups

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do you live, and what on earth are you spending your money on? Housing may be absurdly costly in many cities but $5.5k a month after tax (assuming you're American) is enough to do much better than "barely ok" almost anywhere. Are you significantly in debt or living above your means?

>Where do you live, and what on earth are you spending your money on? Bay area ~$5,000 net monthly $2500 Rent/PGE $1000 Car/Insurance/Gas/Parking/Phone/Internet $500 Food/Clothing $500 IRA That leaves ~$500 monthly discretionary income, which I usually try to save as much as possible but inevitably gets eaten up by all the stupid little things in life that cost too much nowadays. I can't even imagine supporting a fam…

I'd consider that too low a salary premium to justify Bay Area rent. There's an aspect of "because people are willing to put up with it" to "why are prices so high in some areas."

Re: Current Inflation Has Different Effects on Different Age Groups

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In the Bay Area, $90K is not sufficient. A one bedroom might cost $3500/month - that’s $40K of your net income.

If you are making $90k and living in SF you should be looking at studios or for roommates, not at one bedrooms. A one bedroom in a city like SF is a luxury.

Isn't that kind of the point of the original comment? That cost of living rises by location in almost perfect parallel to wages? So even though they make a relative lot of money, their standard of living doesn't actually increase much.

Re: Current Inflation Has Different Effects on Different Age Groups

#40

This is a great example of how you can make up anything by aggregating unrelated statistical measures and then mislead people with a new definition on top of another woozy commonly used definition.

Real world example.

We just bought a house about two years ago. Say a younger couple living in our same area of town was renting. Our housing cost may have gone up 5% because of insurance and taxes, but the couple renting would have seen rent go up by 30% during the same period.

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