Just the fact that the EFF, the FSF, BoingBoing, European Pirates, etc disagree with this makes me want to support it.
Care to elaborate on why?
EU committee will vote on an apocalyptically stupid, copyright proposal
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Re: EU committee will vote on an apocalyptically stupid, copyright proposal
#22This will create a super-DMCA where there are zero penalties for false claims, no counterclaim, and no recourse for false claims. All content sharing is DEAD in Europe.
It is not only that - basically even a message you post on a forum could contain copyrighted text so that would have to be filtered too. It is a dead of internet as we know it.
It will have to go to ministry of originality for inspection and approval.
Re: EU committee will vote on an apocalyptically stupid, copyright proposal
#23Would this speed up movement towards decentralised, p2p services? If you can't point to the entity that is hosting the content because it's decentralised (think dat, ipfs, your favourite blockchain technology or p2p network), can it even be enforced?
Re: EU committee will vote on an apocalyptically stupid, copyright proposal
#24Europe wants to protect everyone's privacy, like the GDPR. Lets applaud their effort ;p
Re: EU committee will vote on an apocalyptically stupid, copyright proposal
#25Would this speed up movement towards decentralised, p2p services? If you can't point to the entity that is hosting the content because it's decentralised (think dat, ipfs, your favourite blockchain technology or p2p network), can it even be enforced?
> If you can't point to the entity that is hosting the content because it's decentralised (think dat, ipfs, your favourite blockchain technology or p2p network), can it even be enforced?
Yes. This "if a law becomes difficult to enforce, law enforcement will just ¯\_(ツ)_/¯" meme is fiction. History suggests the law will become stricter towards end users and mercurial in its enforcement.
Re: EU committee will vote on an apocalyptically stupid, copyright proposal
#26Would this speed up movement towards decentralised, p2p services? If you can't point to the entity that is hosting the content because it's decentralised (think dat, ipfs, your favourite blockchain technology or p2p network), can it even be enforced?
On a decentralized, p2p service, the entity that's hosting the content is "everyone". That is, everyone who is a part of the network could be held responsible, either directly (for distributing the content) or indirectly (for being part of a service which does not have a mechanism to follow the law forbidding distribution of the content).
Re: EU committee will vote on an apocalyptically stupid, copyright proposal
#27Would this speed up movement towards decentralised, p2p services? If you can't point to the entity that is hosting the content because it's decentralised (think dat, ipfs, your favourite blockchain technology or p2p network), can it even be enforced?
You can still force IPFS nodes to delete certain files.
Re: EU committee will vote on an apocalyptically stupid, copyright proposal
#28Would this speed up movement towards decentralised, p2p services? If you can't point to the entity that is hosting the content because it's decentralised (think dat, ipfs, your favourite blockchain technology or p2p network), can it even be enforced?
> If you can't point to the entity that is hosting the content because it's decentralised (think dat, ipfs, your favourite blockchain technology or p2p network), can it even be enforced? Yes. This "if a law becomes difficult to enforce, law enforcement will just ¯\_(ツ)_/¯" meme is fiction. History suggests the law will become stricter towards end users and mercurial in its enforcement.
True but there's a point where that becomes politically difficult.
Re: EU committee will vote on an apocalyptically stupid, copyright proposal
#29This will create a super-DMCA where there are zero penalties for false claims, no counterclaim, and no recourse for false claims. All content sharing is DEAD in Europe.
It is not only that - basically even a message you post on a forum could contain copyrighted text so that would have to be filtered too. It is a dead of internet as we know it.
* Of internet as we know it in the EU.
Other nations will give the EU a big finger and move on with their life
Re: EU committee will vote on an apocalyptically stupid, copyright proposal
#30Europe wants to protect everyone's privacy, like the GDPR. Lets applaud their effort ;p
Don't forget to dull the point of your kitchen knives! Wouldn't want to accidentally own a weapon :D