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Developers are manufacturing prefabricated apartment buildings

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Re: Developers are manufacturing prefabricated apartment buildings

#172
That's very interesting. As an eastern european, my idea of prefabricated apartment buildings is something like this:

http://s2.ziareromania.ro/?mmid=5d9526e31d488caac

It's about the worst kind of home you could live in. No one wants it if they can afford better.

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#173
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We just built a "hybrid" house in Santa Cruz county. We picked the default design and stuck to it. We had to make a few changes to get through the planning department. The biggest issue was not at the building level - but rather everything they made us do to prepare the site for building. Yikes - that was expensive. It also took a long time to get through the planning department.

Was more required of the site prep for the hybrid house than one using more typical construction processes?

The site prep was normal for any house. The biggest change was in septic system requirements. Septic systems cost three times as much as they did a few years ago because we have to have an active system with a fan and they have to have lifetime inspections. The contractor said this is normal now for the state of California. There are also relatively new rules to manage water runoff.

Re: Developers are manufacturing prefabricated apartment buildings

#174

That's very interesting. As an eastern european, my idea of prefabricated apartment buildings is something like this: http://s2.ziareromania.ro/?mmid=5d9526e31d488caac It's about the worst kind of home you could live in. No one wants it if they can afford better.

Pre-fab is a thing in the USA because our building codes and permitting process are ridiculously complex, and also actually building a building is also complex with lots of labor and risk and so on.

I absolutely love pre-fab everything-- long live pre-fab that is customized afterwards.

Re: Developers are manufacturing prefabricated apartment buildings

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post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was more required of the site prep for the hybrid house than one using more typical construction processes?

The site prep was normal for any house. The biggest change was in septic system requirements. Septic systems cost three times as much as they did a few years ago because we have to have an active system with a fan and they have to have lifetime inspections. The contractor said this is normal now for the state of California. There are also relatively new rules to manage water runoff.

Does your town/city also ban composting toilets?

I wanted to buy a $60,000 foreclosure in my town-- they told me I'm not allowed to even step foot on the property until I install a septic system.

Re: Developers are manufacturing prefabricated apartment buildings

#176

That's very interesting. As an eastern european, my idea of prefabricated apartment buildings is something like this: http://s2.ziareromania.ro/?mmid=5d9526e31d488caac It's about the worst kind of home you could live in. No one wants it if they can afford better.

Pre-fab is a thing in the USA because our building codes and permitting process are ridiculously complex, and also actually building a building is also complex with lots of labor and risk and so on. I absolutely love pre-fab everything-- long live pre-fab that is customized afterwards.

Is it also synonymous with low quality (down to 'shitty') housing?

Re: Developers are manufacturing prefabricated apartment buildings

#177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pre-fab is a thing in the USA because our building codes and permitting process are ridiculously complex, and also actually building a building is also complex with lots of labor and risk and so on. I absolutely love pre-fab everything-- long live pre-fab that is customized afterwards.

Is it also synonymous with low quality (down to 'shitty') housing?

Partially but not for any physical reasons, just "social status" reasons.

Like, the quality of the construction is really good and these days is very modern and stylish. Maybe in 1985, pre-fab houses were crappy mobile homes that fell apart easily. But these days, no, pre-fab is much nicer than a normal home constructed in the 1960s (most homes in NYC metro are very old).

However, if you are at the country club, and you mention that your house is a pre-fab... well... the vieux-riche people will have a very negative opinion of you.

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post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The site prep was normal for any house. The biggest change was in septic system requirements. Septic systems cost three times as much as they did a few years ago because we have to have an active system with a fan and they have to have lifetime inspections. The contractor said this is normal now for the state of California. There are also relatively new rules to manage water runoff.

Does your town/city also ban composting toilets? I wanted to buy a $60,000 foreclosure in my town-- they told me I'm not allowed to even step foot on the property until I install a septic system.

I don't know. The county was reviewing composting toilets in 2013. I don't know the outcome.

Re: Developers are manufacturing prefabricated apartment buildings

#179
post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does your town/city also ban composting toilets? I wanted to buy a $60,000 foreclosure in my town-- they told me I'm not allowed to even step foot on the property until I install a septic system.

I don't know. The county was reviewing composting toilets in 2013. I don't know the outcome.

Many of the counties in the Northeast have taken a strong stance against composting toilets. It's because the local construction companies control the local governments here.

They literally don't let you buy or move onto specific properties without submitting plans from "an approved septic installation company."

You can imagine who is on the approval board, and which companies are "approved providers."

Re: Developers are manufacturing prefabricated apartment buildings

#180
post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know. The county was reviewing composting toilets in 2013. I don't know the outcome.

Many of the counties in the Northeast have taken a strong stance against composting toilets. It's because the local construction companies control the local governments here. They literally don't let you buy or move onto specific properties without submitting plans from "an approved septic installation company." You can imagine who is on the approval board, and which companies are "approved providers."

California has water issues - that is why they were seriously considering composting toilets.
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