Behind the Messy, Expensive Split Between Facebook and WhatsApp’s Founders

Post by tripzilch » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 2:21 PM UTC

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The most frustrating change for me was FB (or Messenger later) used to send me an email when I received a message, with the message content inside the email. A few years ago they removed the content from the email and forced me to log into FB or Messenger to see the message. It's extremely user hostile.

It's basically turning your friends' messages into clickbait. I got one recently that was "Someone just flagged me down at a..." and it just feels like a really insidious way to get you to go to Facebook and read the rest. It doesn't even show that much in the actual email, only in the Gmail preview - it's just a link to Facebook (the text is set to "color:#FFFFFF;display:none !important;font-size:1px;").

Post by tripzilch » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 2:45 PM UTC

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> It took over a year to finally hear it from other colleagues that they don't see some posts, which I started telling from the very first day. I wonder if you have to pay FB to promote them? /s

Better still, you pay Facebook to _bury_ them. You raise all the important concerns about how the project you're working on is going to completely fuck up, and quietly arrange for Zuck to get a little richer while ensuring none of your cow orkers see these messages. Then you pull them out at the inevitable blamestorming meeting and say "But look! I raised all those big red flag problems on date[1] date[2] and date[3]…

Post by tripzilch » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 3:03 PM UTC

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Imagine how useful it would be if when there is a notification about a friend on Facebook, you could peek it by swiping on the notification in the android drawer like you can with texts, without entering the Facebook app. Nope. Engineers are dedicated there to increasing other things than the utility of the app. Interests aren't aligned with the users. Same with removing chronological feeds. Turn things more and more…

Except to show that notification on your phone, Facebook needs to give a 3rd party (Phone Manufacturer) access not only to your data, but data about your friends. This is something people are currently very upset with them for doing. So they can make things convenient, or keep your data safe, but its hard to do both.

Post by theyinwhy » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 8:44 PM UTC

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"supported by grants and donations" according to their site.

Why is everyone doing business with a black and white strategy? On one extreme, everything is free and funded by selling user information and on the other extreme, everthing is free but funded by donation. What is wrong with 2$/year model? Everyone (I mean truly everyone) is willing to pay that.

Post by on_and_off » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 3:46 AM UTC

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For some reason american bathroom stall doors don't reach the floor. It is very weird the first time you see them coming from Europe but it seems to be the norm here

I think its to prevent people having sex in them.