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Suicide rising across the US

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Re: Suicide rising across the US

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dsnuh wrote: post #150
toomuchtodo wrote: post #81

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Agreed. Divorce is one of the most financially devastating events that can happen in one’s life. The longer I’m alive, the longer I recommend to people to never get married. Live together, but keep your finances separate (does not apply in community property states; watch out!).

I doubt I will be able to recover from mine. I'm paying $1700 per month in child support for two kids, even though I have custody of them 45% of the time. I have Smith-Ostler riders to collect 12% from any bonus, stock option sales, RSUs, etc. I basically have to restart from scratch on my 401k, as that was used to pay off the divorce costs and equalizations. I finished paying off spousal support, which was another $…

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Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by selestify »

ikeyany wrote: post #91
test6554 wrote: post #25

Without encouraging or condoning this type of behavior, I really wish people had a chance to conduct an exit interview from life. Only after the decision was solidified and all other methods of outreach had failed. The data would be remarkable and might save many lives. World: We're sorry to see you go. Please let us know why you are leaving, and what we could to do make this a better place to live in the future. Tha…

We already know what causes anxiety, depression, and lack of purpose. But reducing those would mean reducing the motivations for what keeps much of the economy functioning. Society depends on the premise that suicide can not and should not be understood.

What are the causes? I had been under the impression that they are not fully understood

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Post by ryandrake »

adamnemecek wrote: post #141
dwaltrip wrote: post #137

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> If there's a Twitter organized revolution happening around you If this actually happens, you won't need to be on Twitter to find out about it.

At that point it will be too late to prevent it tho.

You’re going to prevent a Twitter-organized revolution by... being on Twitter?

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by ars »

drdeca wrote: post #149
ars wrote: post #135

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> Unless you mean that the attempts to make people feel worthless are done on the basis of immutable things Yes, I do mean that. If you are white or a male you are told to "check your privilege", and that you "are not allowed to speak about issues". (Is a white male allowed to have an opinion about abortion? Ask yourself what you think, and ask others as well, and that will help you understand.) Go watch some campus…

The point of my sentence you quoted was more in the part that said > but are done in response to "not towing the line" Like, your previous comment was about "towing the line" and I was asking about the connection between the "immutable properties" thing mentioned in the original comment I responded to, and the "towing the line" that you mentioned. I wasn't asking "are people speaking against other people's immutable…

That's why I linked to that story. If you have an undesirable immutable property (i.e. white or male), then you have to toe the line by deprecating yourself. But if you are a minority then you are not required to do that, you are accepted simply because you are assumed to always be oppressed.

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by DoreenMichele »

castlecrasher2 wrote: post #159
DoreenMichele wrote: post #124

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No, you clearly don't really understand it. If you did, you should know that telling a suicidal person "chin up, it's fixable!" is the worst thing you can do. Another big sin is offering me encouragement unsolicited as if I need it when I am not even saying that I am currently suicidal. Last, I have a genetic disorder. There is no cure for that. Your assumption that anything is fixable if you just try hard enough is…

> "chin up, it's fixable!" Having been suicidal for a number of years myself and having overcome it, in my case it was fixable. People suggesting that unfortunately may not be familiar with something as agonizing as a genetic disorder, and I'm sorry for what you're going through.

I'm not looking for sympathy. I'm looking to put out useful information.

Telling an internet stranger "it's fixable" when you don't know what the problem is tends to go very bad places.

My initial assertion was that, no, most people don't really want to understand because then they might have to be kinder and that isn't usually on their agenda. Given the pile on of down votes and every reply to me being dismissive and argumentative, I stand by that assertion.

Whatever interest I had in trying to do some kind of PSA here has basically died. I think I am done here. I have made my point, though, no, most people won't see that. They are too busy trying to come up with counterarguments proving they aren't somehow part of the problem.

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Post by krapp »

djschnei wrote: post #126

Young (white) men are completely lost in the US right now. The most exciting thing in the majority of my friends lives right now (23-26 years old) are the current challenges in Fortnite. Everyone is scared of longterm, meaningful relationships and Tinder provides the instant artificial validation to make those long-term relationships seem unnecessary. You're a tryhard if you have serious career aspirations or goals.…

>Young (white) men are completely lost in the US right now.

None of the anxiety or malaise you describe in your comment exclusively applies to white people or men, so the parenthetical seems irrelevant.

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by sp332 »

ethbro wrote: post #139
ams6110 wrote: post #125

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> the world feels like such a blur Get off of social media and twitter. Stop watching/reading the news every day. If you want to keep up with current events, read a politically neutral monthly periodical. I grew up in the 70's and 80's. Every generation looks back on its youth as "the good old days" but things really were much less stressful then and the main difference I see is that you were not connected to a fireh…

I had a hilarious exchange with a 20-something person at an event recently. Me: "Is {particular social injustice} still happening in the world? I feel like that doesn't happen regularly anymore." Person: "People are doing it all the time on Instagram. I've seen two posts this month." Me: "I'm not on Instagram." Person: "It happens on Facebook too. I saw one this year." Me: "I'm not on Facebook." Person: "Then how do…

So you wanted to know something, and this person knew it, and it's funny because you wanted them not to know it either? I don't get it.

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Post by CydeWeys »

ars wrote: post #68
CydeWeys wrote: post #42

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Still missing context. Are schoolyard bullies actually doing this to other kids? Or are you talking about something else? Can you speak plainly and not use analogies?

You've really never experienced being told that unless you are a minority (ideally an oppressed one) or a victim, or at the very least, you have some non-typical sexual identity, you are worthless? You have not noticed people making up sexual identities that they don't really have? Or inventing (or inflating) victim stories about themself?

I've basically never seen the former. I do see 100X as much ranting against it though. It's hard to feel oppressed when you fit into all the majority categories.

As for people "making up" aspects of their identity ... so? Who fucking cares? It doesn't affect me at all, let alone make me more prone to committing suicide!!!

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Post by CydeWeys »

kuraudo wrote: post #127
stnmtn wrote: post #56

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So, in this analogy, white people are the victims, and minorities are the bullies? I guess if you strip all historical context out of the racial issues, ignore current inequalities, and just focus on what people on Tumblr are saying, I guess you could come to that conclusion, but you have to intentionally avoid a lot of stuff to reach that

I don't think it's possible to deny it at this point; you'd have to be blind not to see the hatred directed towards white people. This behavior is both encouraged and protected by the culture & institutions running the western world at the moment. The opposite is cracked down upon swiftly.

I feel like this comment is coming from some parallel bizarro world. We have an openly racist president and majority party and yet somehow it's the whites who are suffering?

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by krapp »

kuraudo wrote: post #105
User23 wrote: post #2

The article avoids pointing out the obvious, but the map makes it clear this rise is predominantly among white Americans.

This isn't exactly the best time to be a white male. There is a lot of hatred, both institutional and cultural, directed their way.

That's true.

But it's still a much better time to be a white male than a nonwhite male, or female, or any type of transgender, in many parts of the world.

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