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Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by Zamicol »

pera wrote: post #26
jameslk wrote: post #11

> That said, the GitHub team reports that the set of users who have migrated or closed their accounts is extremely small, and this is more than made up for by the surge of new signups and new interest in GitHub this week. It's interesting to hear this. If you were on HN the past week, it might have seemed from all the front page articles that GitHub was about to implode due to an an exodus to GitLab.

The announcement happened just 3 days ago, so it's still too early to draw any conclusions. I personally decided to move my stuff out of GitHub, but it will take me a week or so to know where exactly as I'm still analyzing various options. And after migrating, I don't think I will close my account (even when I really distrust Microsoft) simply because too many libre software projects are currently using GitHub.

Same.

It's going to take a while for me to move out of Github.

I have a lot there over years and scripts that use Github.

Also Gitlab's import is failing on some repos.

It's also suddenly pushed me in a place where I have to suddenly find an alternative.

It's going to take some time.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by ezekg »

atupis wrote: post #51
whalesalad wrote: post #17

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Great PR move? Amazing build of trust? Microsoft bought GitHub for over seven billion dollars. You don't buy something for that kind of cash unless it has that kind of value . Saying they 'should' do something as though there is a problem is silly. Engineers here on HN are so quick to say what someone "needs to do" something... but in response to what? What problem are you identifying? A vocal minority of engineers h…

Github value comes from userbase not the platform which could copied pretty easily.

Yeah, good point. You could probably do that in a weekend I bet.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by cjbprime »

staunch wrote: post #68
orand wrote: post #34

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Your comment is a significant misreading of his current statements as well as where he's come from. Yes, he's very skilled in the corporate world, but he's just as skilled in the open source world. You absolutely need to be awesome at both to be able to do the right thing as the CEO of GitHub. Check out his history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Friedman

I've read his Wikipedia page. I see work at Microsoft, Novell, an open source version of Microsoft .NET that had little to no adoption, a Microsoft acquisition, and more Microsoft employment. What's there to be excited about there? He's not an open source developer with a great project that now leads GitHub. He's a corporate guy that now leads GitHub under Microsoft executives.

It is extremely obvious that you don't know anything about Nat or his work history.

Ximian led development of GNOME, which was one of the largest open source software projects at the time. Nat showed up to the hackfests and wrote code like everyone else. He is absolutely an open source developer, whose later career has been in management.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by Semaphor »

gaius wrote: post #73
craftyguy wrote: post #28

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Given how 1) he's provided no evidence to support his claim, 2) he would never publicly say "a significant number of users have moved", and 3) gitlab has a public tracker showing thousands of projects being imported, I'd take his comment with a large grain of salt.

Github has 28 million users with 85 million repos. Thousands is a very small proportion. Also: Gitlab also has to exit one day. The only question is who buys them.

FWIW, Gitlab would prefer an IPO and they say they are on track for it.

Source: Gitlab guy in one of the many, many, many Gitlab or Github threads recently.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by mikece »

gkoberger wrote: post #39
emilsedgh wrote: post #32

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1. They have great competition in Gitlab. Gitlab's main point is it's open source. They simply will be more competitive. 2. They want to improve their "Open Source Friendly" image and they've been taking meaningful steps towards it. 3. Why not? What's the downside of doing so?

Apple has great competition in Android, however it would be silly to open source iOS. GitLab/Android are customizable and have a ton of features, while GitHub/iOS are more cohesive. Differentiation is how competition exists. Even if you prefer Android/GitLab, you can't deny that most of the early innovation was copied from iOS/GitHub. In fact, most open source projects (Linux, Firefox, OpenOffice, etc) take their lea…

GitLab :: Android

GitHub :: iOS

CodePlex :: Windows Phone

Makes complete sense...

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by ProAm »

Zamicol wrote: post #81
pera wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The announcement happened just 3 days ago, so it's still too early to draw any conclusions. I personally decided to move my stuff out of GitHub, but it will take me a week or so to know where exactly as I'm still analyzing various options. And after migrating, I don't think I will close my account (even when I really distrust Microsoft) simply because too many libre software projects are currently using GitHub.

Same. It's going to take a while for me to move out of Github. I have a lot there over years and scripts that use Github. Also Gitlab's import is failing on some repos. It's also suddenly pushed me in a place where I have to suddenly find an alternative. It's going to take some time.

Can you just host a git server yourself? Not trying to be snarky but seems doable.
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