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Suicide rising across the US

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Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by DannyB2 »

C14L wrote: post #15
DannyB2 wrote: post #10

THIS IS NOT a politically motivated post. Compare the map in TFA with this map, which I trivially Googled: http://news.gallup.com/poll/203117/gop-maintains-edge-state-... It's not a perfect correlation, but to my untrained eye, looking at both maps, it seems to me that red (eg, Republican) states appear to correlate closely with higher suicide states. But please judge and compare the maps for yourself and form your o…

https://xkcd.com/552/

First, one would establish that there is actually a correlation.

If so, then is there a causation? (eg, does being in a red state make one suicidal, or does being suicidal affect one's political views) That seems a bit of a stretch. But if a causation CAN be established, then is there anything that can be done to help people?

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by Erik816 »

User23 wrote: post #17
DannyB2 wrote: post #10

THIS IS NOT a politically motivated post. Compare the map in TFA with this map, which I trivially Googled: http://news.gallup.com/poll/203117/gop-maintains-edge-state-... It's not a perfect correlation, but to my untrained eye, looking at both maps, it seems to me that red (eg, Republican) states appear to correlate closely with higher suicide states. But please judge and compare the maps for yourself and form your o…

There is a running joke that all geographical heat maps are palette swapped demographic maps.

Often true, but this is a percentage increase so presumably it is fairly independent from raw population size.

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by mastax »

C14L wrote: post #15
DannyB2 wrote: post #10

THIS IS NOT a politically motivated post. Compare the map in TFA with this map, which I trivially Googled: http://news.gallup.com/poll/203117/gop-maintains-edge-state-... It's not a perfect correlation, but to my untrained eye, looking at both maps, it seems to me that red (eg, Republican) states appear to correlate closely with higher suicide states. But please judge and compare the maps for yourself and form your o…

https://xkcd.com/552/

https://xkcd.com/1138/

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by jasonmp85 »

blhack wrote: post #9

"Hey kid: did you know that your very being is offensive and actually downright violent towards me and there is nothing you can do about it because it literally has to do with a fundamental aspect of who you are." Absolutely shocking that suicide is up.

Can you clarify the "fundamental aspect of who [people] are"?

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by test6554 »

Without encouraging or condoning this type of behavior, I really wish people had a chance to conduct an exit interview from life. Only after the decision was solidified and all other methods of outreach had failed.

The data would be remarkable and might save many lives.

World: We're sorry to see you go. Please let us know why you are leaving, and what we could to do make this a better place to live in the future. Thank you for giving us a chance to know you.

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by 49531 »

DannyB2 wrote: post #16
blhack wrote: post #9

"Hey kid: did you know that your very being is offensive and actually downright violent towards me and there is nothing you can do about it because it literally has to do with a fundamental aspect of who you are." Absolutely shocking that suicide is up.

I don't know why the downvotes. What you say is true.

I feel like I am missing context.

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by Waterluvian »

pshin45 wrote: post #7
rdtsc wrote: post #4

Feels awkward posting this but I'll leave it here just in case: National Suicide Prevention Lifeline 1-800-273-TALK (8255)

And for those who prefer written communication, there's Crisis Text Line[1]: Text 741741 (US only) Disclaimer: I'm a volunteer. [1] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/09/r-u

Oh man I'm so happy that exists. As a teen I absolutely would not call and talk with a stranger. Found help online. Would have loved to text.

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by acover »

User23 wrote: post #2

The article avoids pointing out the obvious, but the map makes it clear this rise is predominantly among white Americans.

Did they correct for any confounding variables? Old people are more likely to kill themselves and US has an aging population.

Edit: Also, old people in the USA are more likely to be white.

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