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Dear Elon, want to start a website that rates how fake-newsy government-produced accident reports are? /S "FDA said my farm is producing salmonella-infected chicken. Downvote their report on this URL!"
> Tesla has said that Huang received warnings to put his hands on the wheel, but according to the NTSB, these warnings came more than 15 minutes before the crash.
> Tesla has emphasized that a damaged crash attenuator had contributed to the severity of the crash.
These may or may not have been factors contributing to the death of the driver, and ultimately may or may not absolve Tesla from a legal liability.
However, the key point here is that without question, the autopilot failed.
It is understandable why Tesla is focusing on the liability issue. This is something that they can dispute. The fact that the autopilot failed is undisputable, and it is unsurprising that Tesla is trying to steer the conversation away from that.
The discussion shouldn't be either the driver is at fault or Tesla screwed up, but two separate discussions: whether the driver is at fault, and how Tesla screwed up.
The NTSB report confirms that. The crash attenuator—an accordion-like barrier that's supposed to cushion a vehicle when it crashes
into the lane separator—had been damaged the previous week when a Toyota Prius crashed at the same location.
The resulting damage made the attenuator ineffective and likely contributed to Huang's death.
Dear Elon, want to start a website that rates how fake-newsy government-produced accident reports are? /S "FDA said my farm is producing salmonella-infected chicken. Downvote their report on this URL!"
Without commenting on the rest of the issues with Musk/Tesla, his tweet about a news verification agency was a joke. Verifiably. It was nicknamed Pravda, and a corporation related to his tweet was registered to Musk on Oct 17 2017, the anniversery of the October Revolution.
I'm not saying he's really going to do it, but I question your certainty here with a total lack of actual evidence.
“[Driver’s] hands were not detected on the steering wheel for the final six seconds prior to the crash. Tesla has said that Huang received warnings to put his hands on the wheel, but according to the NTSB, these warnings came more than 15 minutes before the crash.” This kind of stuff is why I’ve lost all faith in Tesla’s public statements. What they said here was, for all intents and purposes, a flat out lie. Clearly…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, „hands were not detected“ does not mean that they really weren‘t on the wheel. Maybe someone who drives a Tesla can comment on how reliable the hand detection is.
No idea about tesla, but how do you screw up hand detenction?
So, having your hands on the wheel and not moving them can be sensed by the Tesla as "not having your hands on the wheel".
The report itself - worth of reading https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/...
No surprise there about it steering into the barrier or Tesla not-quite-lying about him getting warnings, but I'm surprised that he apparently wasn't dead on impact but survived all the way to the hospital? So even a three-car pileup with the Tesla steering straight into a barrier at 71MPH & accelerating, with the car catching on fire & being reduced to a husk, still isn't enough to kill a driver immediately. In a wa…
“[Driver’s] hands were not detected on the steering wheel for the final six seconds prior to the crash. Tesla has said that Huang received warnings to put his hands on the wheel, but according to the NTSB, these warnings came more than 15 minutes before the crash.” This kind of stuff is why I’ve lost all faith in Tesla’s public statements. What they said here was, for all intents and purposes, a flat out lie. Clearly…
Also, „hands were not detected“ does not mean that they really weren‘t on the wheel. Maybe someone who drives a Tesla can comment on how reliable the hand detection is.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
No idea about tesla, but how do you screw up hand detenction?
It's based off measuring torque on the steering column, not some sort of (say) heat or pressure sensors on the wheel itself. So, having your hands on the wheel and not moving them can be sensed by the Tesla as "not having your hands on the wheel".