Alphabet shareholders reject diversity proposal backed by employees
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Re: Alphabet shareholders reject diversity proposal backed by employees
#2This is an honest question to people who side with the proposal. At what point would these measures become unnecessary? What are the conditions?
Btw what is the name of the ideology that one would use to justify this?
Re: Alphabet shareholders reject diversity proposal backed by employees
#3I wish the article had more details on why the propositions were rejected. It makes sense though, Alphabet is there to make money not foster an ultra political working environment. After the Damore incident, I wouldn't consider working there, but this does offer some hope to those who aren't far-left leaning.
Re: Alphabet shareholders reject diversity proposal backed by employees
#4This is an honest question to people who side with the proposal. At what point would these measures become unnecessary? What are the conditions? Btw what is the name of the ideology that one would use to justify this?
The other question is for people who side with the proposal: what would be considered 'too much effort' when it comes to inclusion and equitability?
Re: Alphabet shareholders reject diversity proposal backed by employees
#5To what extent should diversity be the responsibility of companies? I would argue the responsibility is in proportion to added-discrimination, so to speak (kind of like your profit should be in proportion to your added value).
So, as an example, if 90% of your applicants are male and 10% are female, presuming quality is randomly distributed, the default assumption is that the company ends up with 90% male employees and 10% female employees. You might make some adjustments arguing that diversity is better for work environment / productivity / decision-making but that's a post-hoc adjustment.
If that is the case at Google (and I have no way of knowing), then I would argue the burden falls on society for having 90% of applicants be male and 10% of the applicants be female in the first place. That sharp of a gender gap is not the case in Eastern Europe.
The solution is obviously best targeted toward the problem and not the symptom. If you have a fever because of a bacterial pneumonia, antibiotics are much better than Tylenol.
Re: Alphabet shareholders reject diversity proposal backed by employees
#6Seems like there's a lot of internal conflict in Google at the moment.
Re: Alphabet shareholders reject diversity proposal backed by employees
#7Previous discussion yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17251371
Re: Alphabet shareholders reject diversity proposal backed by employees
#8To what extent should diversity be the responsibility of companies? I would argue the responsibility is in proportion to added-discrimination, so to speak (kind of like your profit should be in proportion to your added value). So, as an example, if 90% of your applicants are male and 10% are female, presuming quality is randomly distributed, the default assumption is that the company ends up with 90% male employees a…
From the article:
> the company remains committed to an internal goal to reach
> "market supply" representation of women and minorities by 2020.
Re: Alphabet shareholders reject diversity proposal backed by employees
#9This is an honest question to people who side with the proposal. At what point would these measures become unnecessary? What are the conditions? Btw what is the name of the ideology that one would use to justify this?
The other question is for people who side with the proposal: what would be considered 'too much effort' when it comes to inclusion and equitability?
It’s not about effort. It’s aboit discriminating against people to fill quotas and turning away qualified candidates when they’re not the “correct” gender or race.
Re: Alphabet shareholders reject diversity proposal backed by employees
#10Why do companies hire all these diversity administration in the first place? It burns epic amounts of money, and sows discontent, when there message and answer to everything is we need more diversity for all leadership and tech positions,(aka quotas of people with subpar skillsets). Instead of merely hiring on skill.