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The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?

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Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?

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Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?

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Regardless of some of the pessimistic takes in this thread of the quality of engineering or institutions in India, the nation is still poised to be the world's most populous nation within five years* - surely a large free market, unhemmed by a giant firewall, would be a great incentive for innovation and enterprise? * http://time.com/3978175/india-population-worlds-most-populou...

It's certainly a lot more complicated than that, and India doesn't have a free market. That's precisely one of the biggest problems they need to resolve, their economy is hamstrung by backward, legacy regulations. Assuming they can reform their economy over time to make it more competitive, there's no question they'll have the world's third largest economy in 15 years.

If they don't reform it properly, the population alone guarantees very little. Just ask Brazil, Pakistan, Nigeria, Bangladesh or Indonesia. The outlook was supposed to be bright for Brazil, they were going to be a new economic juggernaut. They've spent the last five years rolling from one disaster to another, with their economy not net expanding for over a decade now. If the proper steps aren't taken along the way, it's easy enough to fall into that sort of trap as a developing nation trying to overcome an endless supply of challenges. The persistent diligence required to not fall backwards, is rather incredible (especially when you're competing with the first world, China, developing Asian economies like Vietnam, all of Latin America which similarly wants to keep progressing, and so on).

Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?

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If anything, Indian engineers are street smart, and pick up new tech and tools very quickly. Of course, everybody can, I mean to say that there is a cultural attitude to quick adaptation to changing conditions. Source: myself, Indian CS engineer, now living in Europe. Sure, the simple laborious IT tasks are going away with automation for good. But the labor force will pick the next best thing. As long as labor is che…

May I ask which technologies have you worked on?

Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?

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If anything, Indian engineers are street smart, and pick up new tech and tools very quickly. Of course, everybody can, I mean to say that there is a cultural attitude to quick adaptation to changing conditions. Source: myself, Indian CS engineer, now living in Europe. Sure, the simple laborious IT tasks are going away with automation for good. But the labor force will pick the next best thing. As long as labor is che…

> Indian engineers are street smart If we are going to generalize, I would have to say the exact opposite. In my experience they are definitely smart and capable, but usually extremely naive and somewhat sheltered by western standards.

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Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?

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In my own observation the use of outsourcing to India (in terms of market share) has been declining for years. Either being replaced by work done here in Copenhagen or in countries nearer by - Poland in particular.

As a practioner; I cannot say that I miss working with projects outsourced to India. I really hope that you guys learn a less bureaucratic and hierarical way of working and you as a country become more focused on internal demand.

Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?

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While the article doesn't explicitly make the association, I get the impression that a lot of HN readers make the assumption that India's tech sector is synonymous with its IT services industry. Not so. While it is true that IT services is plateauing, that is not so with the tech sector as a whole. E-commerce, cloud-computing, fintech are exploding in India driven by a massive domestic market demand and an ability to…

Tech is doing fine, but India definitely dosen't have the homegrown talent to cater to the new wave of startups.

The fault is the Indian education system, which silences creativity, encourages rote learning and focuses too much on numbers on report cards.

Its really sad and alarming here. (I am from India). There are whole generations of students, who, from their early schooling, right up to a Bachelor's degree in Engineering, are taught to memorize and spit out answers.

There are very few schools that actually teach creativity, problem solving skills, etc.

A few years back, when complaints were made against rote learning, schools have begun to give 'home projects' to kids, ostensibly to improve their creative skills. However, these projects devolved into internet searches, copy-pasting online articles and pictures and calling it a day.

Unless there is a revolution in the education system in India, it would be very difficult to have a large pool of talented problem solvers and creative thinkers.

Those Indians who are famous or are talented, are that way because they fought against the system or ignored it completely or have had good mentors.

Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?

#48

Regardless of some of the pessimistic takes in this thread of the quality of engineering or institutions in India, the nation is still poised to be the world's most populous nation within five years* - surely a large free market, unhemmed by a giant firewall, would be a great incentive for innovation and enterprise? * http://time.com/3978175/india-population-worlds-most-populou...

> surely a large free market, unhemmed by a giant firewall, would be a great incentive for innovation and enterprise?

A critical component of free markets is "contract enforcements". India has poor law enforcement.

Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?

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post #27

A company will outsource because it’s cheaper, in the short term at least. But an outsourcer runs on billable hours, so they are disincentivised to automate repetitive tasks. So here’s the new competition: outsourcer who can do the job for 1/10th the cost, or In-house engineers with advanced automation who can do 100x the work at the same cost. It’s not about West vs India, it’s about business models.

It's more like abuse of Visa.

These Indians cannot compete or shop around for a better salary which make native programmer's salary cheaper.

If you don't like the cheaper salary then go back home and reapply for visa that's the choice they have and it's a disincentive to go through the whole process.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa > If a foreign worker in H-1B status quits or is dismissed from the sponsoring employer, the worker must either apply for and be granted a change of status, find another employer (subject to application for adjustment of status and/or change of visa), or leave the United States. Effective January 17, 2017, the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services modified the rules to allow a grace period of up to 60 days but in practice as long as a green card application is pending they are allowed to stay.

That's not really a new competition. It's just a cheat/loop hole that companies use to pay nonnative IT people dirt.

I think a better solution is let non native workers shop around for better salary (or make it easier) and add a foreign tax on top of their salary.

The foreign tax is similar to out of state tuition when you attend university out of state, the people who are native who have paid taxes for the infrastructure vs people that aren't native that are using infrastructure and may leave the state/country with no loyalty but for better opportunities should pay a tax. The tax is also to incentivize visa holder to become citizen in the future.

I also like a hiring cap for non native people base on if there are actual skill lacking in current work force. The cap is to be revise every few years base on market.

Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?

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I studied in India 2012 for a short time. I met incredible smart and hardworking people. However, one thing that I found quite unnerving was that there is a tendency to always anwser yes if asked if one knows how to do something, even if thats not true. Sometimes a plain "I don't know" can be very helpful in achieving a goal.

I can't count how many times I asked a rickshaw driver if he knew a certain place and he answered yes, and we just drove around for some time until I found out he has no idea. From what I heard that sometimes remains a problem, also in IT service.

That said, we all have our cultural qirks, and in most cases knowing them solves half the problem.

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