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GitHub Is Microsoft’s $7.5B Undo Button
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#172Since the announcement, I’ve been trying to figure out what the most evil uses of “telemetry” that could be incorporated into Github in order to invade user’s privacy are. I’ve had a few (small) ideas but I’m confident that Microsoft already has people much more evil^W^Wsmarter than me working on this very problem (if it wasn’t already figured out beforehand).
You're already uploading the big one. If you're going to trust Microsoft with your actual data, who cares about the metadata?
What about all the people who don't use any Microsoft products (yet)?
I don't really get the deal with github and privacy right now. However it is obvious that this could upset many OS devs who avoided MS
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
wait, how does go and chrome trump open source c#, f#, vb.net, .net core, typescript, asp.net, visual studio code, monaco, powershell core, mono, and the many, many other things they have open sourced? they’ve gone insane. https://opensource.microsoft.com https://github.com/Microsoft and all of these are active and well managed with microsoft employees engaged in communication.
Nothing which a normal 'non microsoft' developer would profit from. Even their contributions to Linux were mostly about running Windows on Linux and the other way around. Nothing a non Microsoft dev would even care about. Google however maintains a few products that can easily be considered standard, or at least will find their way in any other developer stack.
what is a non-microsoft developer? these are open platforms that happen to be made by microsoft.
if you use google’s open source projects are you now a google developer?
and visual studio code is probably used more for web development than it is .net work. it certainly is the major selling point of it on the website.
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#174What I’m missing from GitHub is an easy way to search for repositories by subject. Say you need to create a user admin front end you should be able to find that easily. I always end up using Google or DDG instead. Maybe MS can fix that. (insert Bing joke here.)
I haven't thought about that one. I really hope they keep the current search instead of replacing it with Bing :/
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The cost to copy a repo over is low, but you lose all the social aspects. You don't copy over forks or stars. People who want to fork your repo and make pull requests need to sign up for a new service. Old links to your repo on GitHub won't work anymore. I copied my personal projects to GitLab today and that was very easy to do but I'm not sure what to do about the GitHub version for the one that had a little popular…
I did the same. I'm replacing the README on GitHub with "Moved to https://gitlab.com/.. . and a description of what the software does. If people finds it interesting they will follow the link. A fork between services becomes more complicate but not so much: git pull from GitLab and git push to GitHub or whatever. Everybody knows how to do it. Right, one loses the "fork" link between the two repositories but really, w…
Even when I disregard the inate desire of humans for popularity, forks and esp. stars are a sometimes-useful signal for the size of your user base. If I have 10 repos with 1-3 stars and 1 repo with 100 stars, that is useful information to consider when planning the next project.
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#176I am a developer, use git, but don't use too much GitHub. I am genuinely curious, are the users of GitHub really that tied in to the site? Is the cost of moving to another platform, really that difficult??
I am part of several organisations and all my tooling is based around git and sometimes third party github extensions.
I can move. But it's definitly not painless.
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Aren't a lot of open source communities based around IRC channels or is that old hat now? I remember back in the day IRC was the place to be for Debian. Ditto for when I was doing stuff with Perl.
Well now that you mention it, in the communities I care about, IRC was replaced by Gitter ( https://gitter.im/ ). Which is also linked to GitHub accounts and repositories. Ironically, Gitter was bought by GitLab and open sourced, but they haven't changed the implementation to allow for chat rooms linked to GitLab repos. At the glacial pace it is evolving, it wouldn't be unfair to say that Gitter is probably relying s…
While gitter generally is a good idea I have yet to land in a active channel. The partly abondened IRC channels often still show a lot more activity even when they link to their gitter in their meta.
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#178With Google recently investing $20 million in GitLab [1] and helping them migrate from Azure to Google Cloud Platform [2][3], what are developers going to do when Google inevitably acquires GitLab? Move their repositories back to GitHub, switch to BitBucket or something else entirely? [1] https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/09/gitlab-raises-20m-series-c... [2] https://venturebeat.com/2018/04/06/why-and-how-gitlab-abando..…
Google in the past had Google Code, which was fine and had some level of success.
Microsoft had Codeplex and was rather similar. Didn't use it enough to form an opinion about it.
Both were largely left behind by Github.
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nothing which a normal 'non microsoft' developer would profit from. Even their contributions to Linux were mostly about running Windows on Linux and the other way around. Nothing a non Microsoft dev would even care about. Google however maintains a few products that can easily be considered standard, or at least will find their way in any other developer stack.
what is a non-microsoft developer? these are open platforms that happen to be made by microsoft. if you use google’s open source projects are you now a google developer? and visual studio code is probably used more for web development than it is .net work. it certainly is the major selling point of it on the website.
Agreed that is weird wording. When I look at my environment there are basically 2 kind of developers (from this point of view) those who do Net and use the MS stack, and those who don't do Net and at max worked with VS code.
I really don't know a lot of people who do anything with the MS stack. And those who do code on and for Microsoft (which already is a minority)
I personally don't know anyone who switched from Atom or Sublime to VS. Only VS users I know have been using real VS before.
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They also have LinkedIn. Microsoft realised relatively recently, like Google did a long time ago, that they can give away the sources to the non business-essential stuff and make money through services and exploiting user data. .Net core, a text editor, those are the trinkets that keep the naive developers happy and content that they support a company that is open-source "friendly". That's why open-source is no longe…
That's why FSF tried to move from GPL to AGPL. But companies are obviously not interested until they have a next gen business model and SaaS/PaaS is commoditized.
Your hear many people here on HN actively discouraging the use of the AGPL because it prevents software from being used by companies. Goes to show how well the PR departments work.