The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?
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The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?
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#2If anything, Indian engineers are street smart, and pick up new tech and tools very quickly. Of course, everybody can, I mean to say that there is a cultural attitude to quick adaptation to changing conditions.
Source: myself, Indian CS engineer, now living in Europe.
Sure, the simple laborious IT tasks are going away with automation for good. But the labor force will pick the next best thing. As long as labor is cheaper than the west, Indian outsourcing companies will only thrive. In 10 years, the dynamics will slowly evolve such that outsourcing will slow down, and more original startups will rise up.
UPDATE: I over generalized my comment for my own good. I meant to say, many engineers that I know are .....
Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?
#3If anything, Indian engineers are street smart, and pick up new tech and tools very quickly. Of course, everybody can, I mean to say that there is a cultural attitude to quick adaptation to changing conditions. Source: myself, Indian CS engineer, now living in Europe. Sure, the simple laborious IT tasks are going away with automation for good. But the labor force will pick the next best thing. As long as labor is che…
> Indian engineers are street smart
If we are going to generalize, I would have to say the exact opposite. In my experience they are definitely smart and capable, but usually extremely naive and somewhat sheltered by western standards.
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#4I spend 6 months working from Sunnyvale and 6 months working from India. I have seen a remarkable improvement in quality of engineers. I think IT industry as such pretty much doomed because of automation, saturation and US immigration restrictions. The fresh graduates now I meet want to work on products. Products that are meant for Indian markets and other markets.
India can take a big lead in AI and other things if it managed to reform its higher education and get rid of government controls in that space. If India opens up higher education sector much higher quality talent can be bred there.
Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?
#5I spend 6 months working from Sunnyvale and 6 months working from India. I have seen a remarkable improvement in quality of engineers. I think IT industry as such pretty much doomed because of automation, saturation and US immigration restrictions. The fresh graduates now I meet want to work on products. Products that are meant for Indian markets and other markets. India can take a big lead in AI and other things if…
"India can take a big lead in AI and other things if it managed to reform its higher education and get rid of government controls in that space. If India opens up higher education sector much higher quality talent can be bred there."
Sadly its going to take the Indian government decades to reform even if they want to.
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#6> The consulting firm McKinsey estimates that new tech could make two-thirds of the Indian IT workforce “irrelevant” by 2020. Indian newspaper headlines warned of an IT jobs “bloodbath,”
There was an amazing answer to this "bloodbath" fallacy during an AI/ML conference in Bangalore.
One of the panelists talked about "Manure" - During the Victorian era there used to be lot of horse carriages. More horses meant more manure. So when automobiles were introduced there was a fear that lot of people relying on manure related jobs. But that never happened as automobile related jobs took over. Same is expected to happen during the so-called "bloodbath".
> The level of offshoring of IT services has taken a massive dip since Trump got in
If this is true then the headline about "plateauing" doesn't make sense. It is more of a blip. Next elections when there is a non-Trump President things might get better.
That said, the article reads more like a history of Infosys than actual headline content. Major points are simply - Trump and AI.
Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?
#7If anything, Indian engineers are street smart, and pick up new tech and tools very quickly. Of course, everybody can, I mean to say that there is a cultural attitude to quick adaptation to changing conditions. Source: myself, Indian CS engineer, now living in Europe. Sure, the simple laborious IT tasks are going away with automation for good. But the labor force will pick the next best thing. As long as labor is che…
> pick up new tech and tools very quickly
And then they go on StackOverflow and Github issue trackers, begging anyone and everyone to help them and appearing completely out of their depth.
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#8If anything, Indian engineers are street smart, and pick up new tech and tools very quickly. Of course, everybody can, I mean to say that there is a cultural attitude to quick adaptation to changing conditions. Source: myself, Indian CS engineer, now living in Europe. Sure, the simple laborious IT tasks are going away with automation for good. But the labor force will pick the next best thing. As long as labor is che…
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Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?
#9> The consulting firm McKinsey estimates that new tech could make two-thirds of the Indian IT workforce “irrelevant” by 2020. Indian newspaper headlines warned of an IT jobs “bloodbath,” There was an amazing answer to this "bloodbath" fallacy during an AI/ML conference in Bangalore. One of the panelists talked about "Manure" - During the Victorian era there used to be lot of horse carriages. More horses meant more ma…
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Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?
#10If anything, Indian engineers are street smart, and pick up new tech and tools very quickly. Of course, everybody can, I mean to say that there is a cultural attitude to quick adaptation to changing conditions. Source: myself, Indian CS engineer, now living in Europe. Sure, the simple laborious IT tasks are going away with automation for good. But the labor force will pick the next best thing. As long as labor is che…
> Indian engineers are street smart If we are going to generalize, I would have to say the exact opposite. In my experience they are definitely smart and capable, but usually extremely naive and somewhat sheltered by western standards.
Yeah. My generalization is of no use in a discussion. I only meant to say a lot of them(that I know) are. I can't vouch for billions of us :-)
Could you elaborate "sheltered by western standards"?