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Our path to listing SEC-regulated crypto securities

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Re: Our path to listing SEC-regulated crypto securities

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This sounds great until people realize that only qualified investors will be allowed to trade security tokens.

Social network Gab is attempting to issue security tokens [1] under Regulation A+, which allows the general public to invest. The SEC hasn't approved it yet. [1] https://www.startengine.com/gab-select

People here hate Gab and its founder. He's quite unpleasant. Expected to be downvoted into hell.

Re: Our path to listing SEC-regulated crypto securities

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post #15

This sounds great until people realize that only qualified investors will be allowed to trade security tokens.

Komodo and a few other decentralized exchanges break this issue pretty easily. Same reason privacy coins cannot be shut down.

That's incorrect. Tokens can prevent their transfer to parties that don't have the proper KYC. The smart contract decides that.

Re: Our path to listing SEC-regulated crypto securities

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> If approved, Coinbase will soon be capable of offering blockchain-based securities, under the oversight of the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA). This step forward is being made possible by our acquisition of a broker-dealer license, an alternative trading system license (ATS), and a registered investment advisor (RIA) license. > ... > This is all be…

As JumpCrisscross said, this is very common. Shortcuts the process considerably and there are a fair amount of failing B/Ds out there.

Re: Our path to listing SEC-regulated crypto securities

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>we can go back to building valuable companies Like what? >with a whole new way of funding them. What's wrong with US Dollars?

Crypto securities don't replace the US dollars. They replace the shares you're buying when you invest in a company. You are welcome to use US dollars for that if you want. Chances are depending where the companies are based, getting the money in USD to them could be tricky though. What company people are going to build is anyone's guess, but mine is that there's going to be a lot of them. Silicon Valley is only but a…

What's exciting to me about this is that it could enable trading of these crypto securities outside of typical brokers/exchanges, as well as derivative securities (ie. hold an index of crypto securities, rebalancing from in/out flows from those who buy/trade on the derivatives).

Honestly, I can see an "regulated"[0] crypto securites derivative market being deeper than the underlying crypto securites themselves since they'll trade more OTC.

[0] To the same degree that any government can regulate trade of their currency/debt on global markets.

Re: Our path to listing SEC-regulated crypto securities

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post #19

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The hacker would suddenly discover the various international justice systems. The tokens would be tainted, unspendable, and worthless. A wild guess at the potential reward for unmasking the hacker? ($950B * 0.3 * 0.001 --> ~300 M USD). After the first such hack, companies might add a clause to the bylaws enabling the company to re-issue stock to the aggrieved party, restoring balance to the universe.

> The tokens would be tainted, unspendable, and worthless. No they wouldn't because the whole "decentralized system" makes it so you have to get EVERYONE to agree to blacklist those tokens BEFORE THEY ARE TRADED or else it fails because the hacker can tumble those tokens across dozens of different cryptocurrencies on every exchange across thousands of accounts. You will never be able to hard fork every cryptocurrency…

It only takes a few countries imprisoning people who trade in tainted coins/tokens before they become untouchable.

Public ledgers are public. If the US IRS, perhaps coordinated with Interpol, publishes a blacklist of coins, those coins are toast.

Re: Our path to listing SEC-regulated crypto securities

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post #21

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The cost of tracking and trading securities tokens isn't the reason for why there aren't shares for 'anything you can think of'. Is this actually solving a real problem that someone has?

I am in Argentina. I can do an investment on a company being founded in France tomorrow and cash out in 3 months on a secondary market to a buyer in Angola. The friction involved in doing this in a pre-crypto world makes it a non-starter. One of the reason VC has its characteristic geographical distribution is because exit opportunities are extremely localized. No more. This in turn unlocks a ton of talent-capital sy…

But you're not doing it because of any intrinsic property of crypto-coins. You're doing it because they haven't been regulated yet. (I am not implying any ill intent on your part.)

You could do the same thing with normal investments, if trading houses and banks didn't do any KYC checks.

Re: Our path to listing SEC-regulated crypto securities

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They made more profit than deutsche bank? Do you have a source?

Here's one. https://keepingstock.net/binance-does-it-again-passes-deutsc...

The writing of that article gave me an mind-sore. Cannot respect that source whatsoever.

Re: Our path to listing SEC-regulated crypto securities

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post #46
post #38

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> The tokens would be tainted, unspendable, and worthless. No they wouldn't because the whole "decentralized system" makes it so you have to get EVERYONE to agree to blacklist those tokens BEFORE THEY ARE TRADED or else it fails because the hacker can tumble those tokens across dozens of different cryptocurrencies on every exchange across thousands of accounts. You will never be able to hard fork every cryptocurrency…

It only takes a few countries imprisoning people who trade in tainted coins/tokens before they become untouchable. Public ledgers are public. If the US IRS, perhaps coordinated with Interpol, publishes a blacklist of coins, those coins are toast.

Uh, so wait. If the IRS/Interpol becomes an effective source of truth on which coins may be legally transferred and who rightfully owns them, what was the point of the blockchain?
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