Remote Only

#1

Post by omot » Wed, Jun 06, 2018, 10:03 PM UTC

Remote Only
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Re: Remote Only

#2

Post by subway » Wed, Jun 06, 2018, 11:06 PM UTC

For the love of all that is sane, please top trying to push nonstop video calls onto remote employees.

Embrace asynchronous communication.

Re: Remote Only

#3

Post by codemac » Wed, Jun 06, 2018, 11:12 PM UTC

subway wrote: post #2

For the love of all that is sane, please top trying to push nonstop video calls onto remote employees. Embrace asynchronous communication.

Asynchronous communication is like eventual consistency.

It seems pragmatic until you actually struggle to get everyone to be on the same page at the same time, then you spend a lot of time figuring out how to be consistent.

I agree the video calls are probably over the top - but asynchronous communication != synchronous communication.

Re: Remote Only

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Post by sytse » Wed, Jun 06, 2018, 11:14 PM UTC

subway wrote: post #2

For the love of all that is sane, please top trying to push nonstop video calls onto remote employees. Embrace asynchronous communication.

At GitLab we work async by default. But we also learned that video calls are great for bonding and solving complex problems. We don't use video calls for presentations or status updates. The exception is functional group updates that are recorded for the people the can't attend and that spend a lot of time on questions.

Re: Remote Only

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Post by 11235813213455 » Wed, Jun 06, 2018, 11:16 PM UTC

subway wrote: post #2

For the love of all that is sane, please top trying to push nonstop video calls onto remote employees. Embrace asynchronous communication.

what's the right amount? 2 group calls per week, each under 1h?

Re: Remote Only

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Post by hartator » Wed, Jun 06, 2018, 11:18 PM UTC

> Disadvantages > Scares investors - Scares some partners - Scares some customers - Scares some potential employees, mostly senior non-technical hires - Onboarding is harder, first month feels lonely

We do a full remote policy at SerpApi.com, however I found this disadvantages list a bit dishonest, they are more way numerous and important, the most obvious are missing real human contacts (and it doesn't get easier with time), and harder life and work separation.

Re: Remote Only

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Post by lquist » Wed, Jun 06, 2018, 11:20 PM UTC

hartator wrote: post #6

> Disadvantages > Scares investors - Scares some partners - Scares some customers - Scares some potential employees, mostly senior non-technical hires - Onboarding is harder, first month feels lonely We do a full remote policy at SerpApi.com, however I found this disadvantages list a bit dishonest, they are more way numerous and important, the most obvious are missing real human contacts (and it doesn't get easier wi…

Came to the thread to say this. The site loses a lot of legitimacy by glossing over very real tradeoffs to having a fully remote team.

Re: Remote Only

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Post by cgb223 » Wed, Jun 06, 2018, 11:23 PM UTC

hartator wrote: post #6

> Disadvantages > Scares investors - Scares some partners - Scares some customers - Scares some potential employees, mostly senior non-technical hires - Onboarding is harder, first month feels lonely We do a full remote policy at SerpApi.com, however I found this disadvantages list a bit dishonest, they are more way numerous and important, the most obvious are missing real human contacts (and it doesn't get easier wi…

Can you expand on the disadvantages then?

If you were to write that list, what would it look like?

Re: Remote Only

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Post by tw1010 » Wed, Jun 06, 2018, 11:23 PM UTC

I like this kind of manifesto much more than the ones we've seen before in this industry. This one feels much much more honest.

Re: Remote Only

#10

Post by rmsaksida » Wed, Jun 06, 2018, 11:23 PM UTC

subway wrote: post #2

For the love of all that is sane, please top trying to push nonstop video calls onto remote employees. Embrace asynchronous communication.

It's easy to go overboard with them, but if video calls are the price for going remote, I'll gladly pay.