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So long GitHub and thanks for all the fish

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Re: So long GitHub and thanks for all the fish

#11

Post by morekozhambu »

chx wrote: post #3

I disagree. "it will probably take Microsoft at least a year before they can start squeezing" you could squeeze Github with a streamroller and still never see over seven and a half billion dollars of profit out of it. If you think Microsoft bought this because they want Github alone to make this money back in any sane time frame then you utterly deluded. > Microsoft never was and never will be trustworthy. Replacing…

I think MS finds FOSS as the cancer not just Linux.

How can a software exist free to use/modify/share and hit them hard on their own turf. It is the anti-thesis of MS. How will they allow it to exist?

Re: So long GitHub and thanks for all the fish

#12

Post by chx »

backpropaganda wrote: post #9
chx wrote: post #3

I disagree. "it will probably take Microsoft at least a year before they can start squeezing" you could squeeze Github with a streamroller and still never see over seven and a half billion dollars of profit out of it. If you think Microsoft bought this because they want Github alone to make this money back in any sane time frame then you utterly deluded. > Microsoft never was and never will be trustworthy. Replacing…

> what would they need to do before you believe them? The reason people trust other companies (Google and Facebook) more when it comes to open source is because these companies actively use open source products in their core products, and would be affected significantly if open source degrades in any way. Although Microsoft contributes to open source (vscode, dotnetcore, etc.), in no way are they reliant in open sour…

Their core product is increasingly Azure.

Re: So long GitHub and thanks for all the fish

#13

Post by chx »

morekozhambu wrote: post #11
chx wrote: post #3

I disagree. "it will probably take Microsoft at least a year before they can start squeezing" you could squeeze Github with a streamroller and still never see over seven and a half billion dollars of profit out of it. If you think Microsoft bought this because they want Github alone to make this money back in any sane time frame then you utterly deluded. > Microsoft never was and never will be trustworthy. Replacing…

I think MS finds FOSS as the cancer not just Linux. How can a software exist free to use/modify/share and hit them hard on their own turf. It is the anti-thesis of MS. How will they allow it to exist?

I think you have mistaken the 90s Windows - Office alliance reliant Microsoft with the Azure - Office 365 reliant Microsoft of today.

Re: So long GitHub and thanks for all the fish

#14

Post by someeguy »

chx wrote: post #3

I disagree. "it will probably take Microsoft at least a year before they can start squeezing" you could squeeze Github with a streamroller and still never see over seven and a half billion dollars of profit out of it. If you think Microsoft bought this because they want Github alone to make this money back in any sane time frame then you utterly deluded. > Microsoft never was and never will be trustworthy. Replacing…

> I am willing to give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt. Seriously, after bringing SQL Server to Linux, Linux to Windows, open sourcing Chakra Core and so much more ... what would they need to do before you believe them?

EEE

(Embrace, Extend, Extinguish)

You point out their tried and tested setup, but still expect them to play the game differently this time.

Re: So long GitHub and thanks for all the fish

#16

Post by someeguy »

snogaraleal wrote: post #6

How is it "customer lock-in"? Git != GitHub, Microsoft doesn't have a say over git.

Think bigger:

* You have backlinks that point to your github repos, that need to be updated (not all of them are under your control).

* If you were foolish enough to also host your blog/project website/whatever on Github Pages, moving means starting somewhere else from scratch (again: you need to update all your backlinks, not all of them under your control).

* You have to update your build servers when your repos move elsewhere.

* Your issue tracker is stuck on Github

* Your discussions are stuck on Github

* Your (developer) social network is stuck on Github.

* Your statistics tracker is stuck on Github.

There are a lot of lock-in features hidden in plain sight.

Re: So long GitHub and thanks for all the fish

#17

Post by Accacin »

chx wrote: post #3

I disagree. "it will probably take Microsoft at least a year before they can start squeezing" you could squeeze Github with a streamroller and still never see over seven and a half billion dollars of profit out of it. If you think Microsoft bought this because they want Github alone to make this money back in any sane time frame then you utterly deluded. > Microsoft never was and never will be trustworthy. Replacing…

Stop spying on their users and stop the patent extortion against Linux. They only love open source when it benefits them, they don't love it so much when it is able to benefit others or might lead them away from the Windows ecosystem.

I'd say you're utterly deluded if you think MS did this out of the goodness of their heart. They expect to get their money back somehow.

Re: So long GitHub and thanks for all the fish

#18

Post by jasonkostempski »

hguhghuff wrote: post #5

I don’t get the Microsoft hate, it feels immature, like teenage rage. Life’s pretty good if all you have to get really mad about is Microsoft buying github.

Someone's got to bring the rage. These teenagers today have been made docile by the software and devices created by the likes of MS, so us Gen X curmudgeons need to pick up the slack, just like we do for everything else they should be responsible for.

*I originally typed that jokingly playing the role of a stereotypical Gen Xer. When I took off my stage costume, I realized I was wearing the same outfit underneath. ./midlifecrisis.sh

Re: So long GitHub and thanks for all the fish

#19

Post by mnw21cam »

backpropaganda wrote: post #9
chx wrote: post #3

I disagree. "it will probably take Microsoft at least a year before they can start squeezing" you could squeeze Github with a streamroller and still never see over seven and a half billion dollars of profit out of it. If you think Microsoft bought this because they want Github alone to make this money back in any sane time frame then you utterly deluded. > Microsoft never was and never will be trustworthy. Replacing…

> what would they need to do before you believe them? The reason people trust other companies (Google and Facebook) more when it comes to open source is because these companies actively use open source products in their core products, and would be affected significantly if open source degrades in any way. Although Microsoft contributes to open source (vscode, dotnetcore, etc.), in no way are they reliant in open sour…

boggles If you think I trust Facebook more than Microsoft...

(And that's saying something.)

Re: So long GitHub and thanks for all the fish

#20

Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

hguhghuff wrote: post #5

I don’t get the Microsoft hate, it feels immature, like teenage rage. Life’s pretty good if all you have to get really mad about is Microsoft buying github.

Most of negative comments I read come from senior devs, those who remember the company in the 90s. It was a ruthless fight back then.
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