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Facebook confirms data sharing with Chinese companies

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Re: Facebook confirms data sharing with Chinese companies

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> “Every piece of content that you share on Facebook, you own and you have complete control over who sees it and how you share it, and you can remove it at any time,” This sentence has been bothering me because it feels like his lawyers wrote it. It's specifically worded to not include issues like this one. Ref: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/techburger/article/Zuckerbe...

Except for the data they seem so eager to give to others.

Re: Facebook confirms data sharing with Chinese companies

#12
This will be the downfall of Facebook, every country wants them to give them data while at the same time wanting to protect their citizen from data being given to other countries. and countries wanting data about their citizens probably contravenes human rights.

Re: Facebook confirms data sharing with Chinese companies

#15
Can someone explain to me a mechanism for having JSON data describing a user and all their information downloaded and then displayed on the screen of either an Android or iOS phone without the app or OS involved then having the ability to send that data to a server later on?

The sentence “only available on the device” makes no sense to me as an engineer. What?

Did Facebook code review every app and OS they gave this access to? Even then, would they be able to garauntee that an update couldn’t be made to the app or some library it relied on to prevent it from harvesting the data?

If that data was encrypted, how did it get displayed on a screen without being unencrypted first and this made vulnerable to scraping?

I was an iOS and Android applications developer and I can’t think of any way to do it (at least on iOS) short of (a) keeping it completely encrypted the entire time (b) only allowing an application signed by Facebook and belonging to Facebook and controlled by Facebook completely (in iOS, at least) to get this data since iOS apps are well sandboxed from one another or (c) relying vaguely on a legal agreement that the other party not be naughty with the data contractually which means jack shit to the Chinese.

On Android - Jesus, forget about it.

Re: Facebook confirms data sharing with Chinese companies

#16
post #5

> “Every piece of content that you share on Facebook, you own and you have complete control over who sees it and how you share it, and you can remove it at any time,” This sentence has been bothering me because it feels like his lawyers wrote it. It's specifically worded to not include issues like this one. Ref: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/techburger/article/Zuckerbe...

How is it specifically worded to not include the issue? I just see that sentence as an outright lie. I thought it was notable for its lack of "weasel words" and disingenuousness that are the hallmarks of Mark Zuckerberg's speech.

From the NYTimes article:

>"But the BlackBerry app had access to all of the reporter’s Facebook friends and, for most of them, returned information such as user ID, birthday, work and education history and whether they were currently online." [1]

Birthday, work and education history are all things that user's "share" on FB no?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/03/technology/fa...

Re: Facebook confirms data sharing with Chinese companies

#17

It's classic. Only one thing can destroy big company / country etc - inside job. In my point of view this is beginning of FB's end.

I pretty much disagree. how exactly would that work? more regulation? so people just click though more yep, it's creepy but I don't care buttons.

charge them as a monopoly? when you have google and apple?

Re: Facebook confirms data sharing with Chinese companies

#18
I am not familiar with the terms of these kinds of data sharing agreements, but I know most US confidentiality agreements include a term that enables companies to share confidential data with governments if required by law. Most agreements if not all also contain a clause that companies take reasonable best efforts to try to resist or narrow such requests. I believe I've heard that tech companies can successfully do this on occassion

So even confidential company info can be taken by the government. In the US I think there are practical limits on this and companies have some ability and willingness to resist. From my limited experience the latter is not always the case in china, and I'd imagine the former is less true as well

Re: Facebook confirms data sharing with Chinese companies

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post #5

> “Every piece of content that you share on Facebook, you own and you have complete control over who sees it and how you share it, and you can remove it at any time,” This sentence has been bothering me because it feels like his lawyers wrote it. It's specifically worded to not include issues like this one. Ref: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/techburger/article/Zuckerbe...

How is it specifically worded to not include the issue? I just see that sentence as an outright lie. I thought it was notable for its lack of "weasel words" and disingenuousness that are the hallmarks of Mark Zuckerberg's speech. From the NYTimes article: >"But the BlackBerry app had access to all of the reporter’s Facebook friends and, for most of them, returned information such as user ID, birthday, work and educat…

Could Zuckerberg argue that this is not what he meant with 'piece of content that you share'? I imagine not, but just wondering.

Re: Facebook confirms data sharing with Chinese companies

#20

It's classic. Only one thing can destroy big company / country etc - inside job. In my point of view this is beginning of FB's end.

I pretty much disagree. how exactly would that work? more regulation? so people just click though more yep, it's creepy but I don't care buttons. charge them as a monopoly? when you have google and apple?

People won't share their data / thoughts etc.

No users / data = no ads. No ads, no cash. No cash means no FB.

Btw Fb's losing users in big already.

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