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Amazon EKS – Now Generally Available

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Re: Amazon EKS – Now Generally Available

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Post by boulos »

sho wrote: post #119
user5994461 wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're on hacker news, where technologists who run world class infrastructure congregate. The average number of servers per people who commented this news is over one thousand.

I seriously doubt that. 1000+ servers is a lot . The number of organisations worldwide running that many servers in any sort of coordination must be pretty low. Services (or "pods") sure, but actual servers? Can't be more than a few hundred companies, surely. One would also think that by 1000-ish servers it's starting to make a lot of financial sense to move out of AWS anyway.

Amusingly, since there are only 200 comments, his statement is true simply by the luck of saying average: multiple companies that comment here are in the tens to hundreds of thousands plus servers range, bringing up the average for everyone :). That said, I'd be deeply surprised if the median was breaking 100. 100 dual-socket servers gets you a lot of compute these days!

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Post by jacques_chester »

yebyen wrote: post #116
an_account_name wrote: post #115

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About your second disclaimer - are you worried someone would try to punish you for this comment, or are you trying to say that generally most commentators have undisclosed conflicts of interest? (I work at Amazon but not AWS, opinions my own but geez I’m not gonna type that every time)

"You had an undisclosed agenda this whole time? How could you! I trusted you, anonymous stranger on the internet! This is an injustice that can never be forgiven!!!" Get used to hearing this! Not the parent poster, but I've been on the receiving end of that.

This is pretty much why I sign almost all of my posts.

Disclosure: I work for Pivotal. My agenda is that I work there. I exchange my labour for financial consideration. I am partly motivated by that consideration. Pivotal. The company is called Pivotal.

Re: Amazon EKS – Now Generally Available

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Post by foxylion »

jpatokal wrote: post #112
foxylion wrote: post #52

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I second this. This means you don't have to setup and manage those master nodes. AWS will do this for you. A developer fixing an issue with your self-managed master nodes will be much more expensive than 150$/month. As an individual this may look expensive, but as a company this is much cheaper than paying the loan of a developer.

I suspect you missed the point earlier: GKE offers a free managed master, even if your cluster is a single node costing you $5/month. Disclaimer: I work at GCP, but not on GKE.

Yes it is nice for experiments, but if you already invest thousands of dollars a month for cloud resources, an additional 150$ are for sure not a problem.

Re: Amazon EKS – Now Generally Available

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Post by manigandham »

iampims wrote: post #73
derefr wrote: post #35

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> Do you think management nodes are free? ... Google['s management nodes] might be free Indeed they are. Why do you think that is? It could be that they're a great big loss-leader for GKE, or that the costs of GKE management nodes are amortized into the per-cluster-node costs. But neither of these seem to be true. (The pricing of GKE management nodes before they made them free was negligible; and GKE nodes don't cost…

It’s subsidized by AdSense. Like every Google product.

Why wouldn't Amazon do the same then when they have a higher market cap than Google and a known reputation to loss-lead an entire vertical to the tune of 100s of millions just to put a competitor out of business?

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Post by dc_gregory »

thockingoog wrote: post #85
yebyen wrote: post #69

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I'm pretty clearly in the minority with my opinion here, and I recognize that. Amazon has made a substantial investment in Kubernetes here and that is nothing to shrug at. They are entitled (and justified) to recoup it. It's fair to say that K8S is not for lightweights, too. AWS provides a fairly generous free tier and they are also justified to extract some payment from every user of their services that derives some…

I serve a couple small websites from a very very small GKE cluster that costs well under $100/month. I don't worry about OS updates or Kubernetes upgrades. I don't worry about it going down. I don't think my needs are that unique.

Not unique, but certainly low value to Amazon in terms of expected revenue.

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

manigandham wrote: post #125
iampims wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s subsidized by AdSense. Like every Google product.

Why wouldn't Amazon do the same then when they have a higher market cap than Google and a known reputation to loss-lead an entire vertical to the tune of 100s of millions just to put a competitor out of business?

Why would they? Companies will pay anyway. It’s a no cost for deployments in 1000s of $$$ / month.

Re: Amazon EKS – Now Generally Available

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Post by heisnotanalien »

dbenhur wrote: post #107
heisnotanalien wrote: post #67

I am guessing it doesn't have Cloudformation support? So I have to spin up instances manually and this is 'generally available' for production use?

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSCloudFormation/latest/UserGui...

Well that's a nice change!
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