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Ask HN: What is your favorite way of setting up online store in 2018?

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Re: Ask HN: What is your favorite way of setting up online store in 2018?

#101
Are there any online services that offer all the features needed for the online store?

If yes, then why build? If no, can you customise the service? If not, then build and make use of available code (libraries, apis, framework)

doing it by yourself will be a great learning experience but costly one.

Wish you and your friend all the best with your online store.

Re: Ask HN: What is your favorite way of setting up online store in 2018?

#102

How about a minimal static page with an email address or phone number at the bottom for placing orders? Sounds very custom and high end. Total control over the customer relationship. Even GDPR compliant.

From my armchair, this solution sounds great. The only drawback is that discoverability is difficult -- sites like etsy probably bring you some marketing for free just by showing up in searches.

Re: Ask HN: What is your favorite way of setting up online store in 2018?

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Shopify or Etsy to MVP until there's traction. Don't prematurely optimize by thinking you need to use Django or write the shop yourself in the beginning. > Budget for building online store is very low. I want to full control over it and independent? Don't do this. Your time is worth something. Just keep an eye as things develop as to how you're going to get the data out of your prototype into a bespoke system, eventu…

100% this. I'd actually encourage your friend to start with an Etsy store and consider adding a shopify based store later if she gets some traction. If you'd like to help her and learn python while doing it then there's a lot you could do around analytics, market (keyword) research and marketing.

Also wanted to drop a note that I've been building https://www.trunkinventory.com the past 6 months to help sync inventory between Etsy & Shopify stores (Amazon and eBay coming soon!). It's currently in early-access with lots of businesses using it successfully. Just trying to make it easier to manage all your sales channels from one place!

Re: Ask HN: What is your favorite way of setting up online store in 2018?

#105

Shopify or Etsy to MVP until there's traction. Don't prematurely optimize by thinking you need to use Django or write the shop yourself in the beginning. > Budget for building online store is very low. I want to full control over it and independent? Don't do this. Your time is worth something. Just keep an eye as things develop as to how you're going to get the data out of your prototype into a bespoke system, eventu…

Excellent advice, and if you find some things you need that the store you choose doesn't support, most of them have APIs, and writing some small tools that use those APIs is a great playpen for learning to code.

Re: Ask HN: What is your favorite way of setting up online store in 2018?

#106

To the rest of the posters... __READ__ what he is writing.. He want total control and a low budget. Have any of you even tried Shopify ? It's low control and it's expensive as hell. Ok, so i'm actually running a pretty large store on Django Oscar. But i would say that it really depends on what you are building The only reason i choose Django oscar over something like shopify is that we sell a highly customizable prod…

Have you ever tried Shopify? It's nearly full control and cheap as shit. I've started stores and sold products in the same day many times, they have 1000s of apps, and even 2 week trial that enables you to test any product before even paying a cent. Unless you can't live with credit card fees, or you're selling drugs, you should almost 100% always use Shopify. Not to mention they can be scaled to the moon cheaply too…

Coding the store is NOT terrible advice when you're talking to a developer who wants "full control and independent".

It's very disappointing to see all the comments here saying "use shopify". That's what your mum would do. Are you a developer or not?

It's like saying "just use facebook, you don't need a website", or "Just eat at MacDonalds, it's much cheaper and easier".

There's no way I would recommend being tied to a monthly Shopify fee when there's much better options out there for devs to gain control, and build a faster more creative and original store.

Shopify.. Really? How unsatisfying and boring.

Re: Ask HN: What is your favorite way of setting up online store in 2018?

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To the rest of the posters... __READ__ what he is writing.. He want total control and a low budget. Have any of you even tried Shopify ? It's low control and it's expensive as hell. Ok, so i'm actually running a pretty large store on Django Oscar. But i would say that it really depends on what you are building The only reason i choose Django oscar over something like shopify is that we sell a highly customizable prod…

The OP probably actually doesn't want total control, they just think they do for whichever reason. As for the price, $29/mo + 2.9% for Shopify Basic isn't bad. It's basically covered (one should hope) by a couple sales per month, especially for bespoke stitching products.

So when someone says they "want total control", your response is "no you don't". Wow.

Are you a sales rep for Shopify? That $30 per month fee is bad.

Re: Ask HN: What is your favorite way of setting up online store in 2018?

#108

I've posted once in this thread already, but I can't stress enough that you should use Shopify. Not only that, but there's an excellent article front page regarding selling online here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17239128

And I can't stress enough that they should not use Shopify. They said "total control" and independent. That is the opposite of what Shopify provides. It sounds like you love Shopify, that's great for you. Some of us like to actually develop websites and customise the checkout proecess, the cart, the categories, the product pages, the collections, the wishlists, the account membership, the invoices, reports, .... the whole lot. It's good to have control rather than be tied to some fast food e-commerce solution.

Re: Ask HN: What is your favorite way of setting up online store in 2018?

#109
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100% this. I'd actually encourage your friend to start with an Etsy store and consider adding a shopify based store later if she gets some traction. If you'd like to help her and learn python while doing it then there's a lot you could do around analytics, market (keyword) research and marketing.

Can you recommend any resources for doing market research or analytics for small online shops?

Springbot for Shopify

Re: Ask HN: What is your favorite way of setting up online store in 2018?

#110
Expanding on what other people have said with some anecdotes:

Most developers who don't have operational experience of a ecommerce business will recommend some kind of open source cart. If they're in the WordPress community they'll recommend Woocommerce. If they're used to building web apps they'll recommend something built on top of their framework of choice.

Almost everyone who has experience working on a successful ecommerce business will tell you to use Shopify. It has all the basic tools you need to run a successful store. If your store is a failure on Shopify, then it would probably be a multitude worse on a custom built cart.

As stated in other comments, the actual cart is a cost center in a ecommerce business. There are stores using themes with minimal modifications doing millions in sales. On the contrary, you could have the most well built site and still have no sales.

If you want to put your technological skills to use, use it on things that generate traffic like content or marketing.

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