Salesforce Commerce Cloud! Just kidding. Don't use this unless you truly hate yourself.
That's Demandware, right? I am not familiar with the product, but what did you not like about it?
Ask HN: What is your favorite way of setting up online store in 2018?
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#92do NOT write your own shop. you're putting your friend in a shit situation when 1 year from now, you're too busy and she needs to find a contractor to add a feature on top of your custom framework, when if you did the right thing in the first place and built it with Shopify, she could find someone super easily
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#93Unless your product is an online store, don't code an online store.
I don't really understand this sentiment which seems to be widely shared here. Stripe handles all the PCI stuff. What's wrong with coding up a basic store?
how do you do inventory management? variants? promotions? etc etc etc
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#94Salesforce Commerce Cloud! Just kidding. Don't use this unless you truly hate yourself.
That's Demandware, right? I am not familiar with the product, but what did you not like about it?
It is Demandware. The pricing is awful (a flat rate of hundreds of thousands + 3.5%), the old pipeline based model is awful, and even the new JS based replacement isn't great. It has the ability to run "jobs" but the error reporting around them tends to suck & so does the coordination aspect of it. Importing data is a pain, there's XML everywhere and the schema borders on being nonsensical. The underlying tech is just old and shitty and you can tell. Not worth what they're charging for it IMO. I'm hoping to investigate Shopify Plus as an alternative. Not sure what kind of functionality it might be missing vs Demandware, but the difference in pricing alone is worth it.
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This does the job for me. Plus then you get a wordpress/php website. Im very happy now that I understand php and was able to make a custom theme.
A Wordpress website isn’t an advantage, it’s a nightmare in terms of security and maintenance.
I disagree. WP pushes security updates up often. There's a huge emphases on security with each major update as well. It's poor plugin development that opens up other security issues. Plus the damn thing powers 25% of the websites on the internet, of course it's a big target. I have seen tons of WP sites hacked, all literally all were on shared hosting or way way out of date, which turns out is the main issue here, not WP.
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#96How about a minimal static page with an email address or phone number at the bottom for placing orders? Sounds very custom and high end. Total control over the customer relationship. Even GDPR compliant.
Is this 1999?
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#97A friend asked me the best way to start a few months ago. I advised her to use Squarespace for a while and if her idea takes off, perhaps then look at something a little more bespoke. She ignored me and contracted a local development company, ended up paying £1200 for a Wordpress/WooCommerce site that could have been set up for peanuts.
So some simple maths, today Shopify medium offering is £60 per month. So that's 20 months worth of subscription. Not including any payment tax.
£1200 for a 'finished' e-commerce site, with training and hosting, sounds fine to me.
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#98If it's an affiliate shop (i.e. Amazon Associates), I recommend https://wpcommission.com + WordPress.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
A Wordpress website isn’t an advantage, it’s a nightmare in terms of security and maintenance.
I disagree. WP pushes security updates up often. There's a huge emphases on security with each major update as well. It's poor plugin development that opens up other security issues. Plus the damn thing powers 25% of the websites on the internet, of course it's a big target. I have seen tons of WP sites hacked, all literally all were on shared hosting or way way out of date, which turns out is the main issue here, no…
> It's poor plugin development that opens up other security issues.
Have you worked with WooCommerce in the past? It's scary.
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#100Most people don't understand that a webshop is like a normal shop: hard and lots of work: Writing good text Taking good pictures Handling sales and delivery Handling returns (yes people will return sometimes) So I agree with most people here: don't roll your own shop but invest time in running your shop.
But those all sound like things that have to be done regardless of whether you code your own website or use something like etsy. So are you just arguing that coding a site takes time away from doing those things?