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Re: GitHub Alternatives

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post #9

"A couple of years ago Microsoft was anti-open-source." The quote is from 2001 as is Ballmer's quote. Closing the article due to its lack of objectivity.

Fixing an imago set by a guy calling open-source and Linux 'a cancer' is really hard. The last few years of changes doesn't magically wipe away that bitter taste, and the last 10-20 years doesn't magically make you forget the past.

At least some of that rhetoric was directed at the GPL specifically. And in that sense, many people in the open source world feel similarly and avoid copyleft.

Re: GitHub Alternatives

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steve Ballmer is no longer CEO. Companies are run by people - they are not people.

And what makes you think 1) company culture is no longer a thing and 2) that microsoft won't swing back towards being openly hostile or worse, 'secretly hostile' towards open source software when someone else is at the healm? I hope time will prove me wrong, but this acquisition is literally the 'embrace' phase of E3. Next comes the 'extend'.

Why would they acquire github just to turn on it and run it into the ground? You can do that if your users are locked-in or maybe you have a competing service but neither are the case here; there are numerous alternatives and it's pretty easy to switch, as we are already seeing. If they have anything but good intentions this would be just a giant waste of time/money.

Re: GitHub Alternatives

#54

Honest question: Besides more traction among the open source community, where do you feel GitHub is stronger than GitLab? I’m not affiliated with GitLab, however a little biased because we’re using GitLab instead of GitHub at our company. Feature-wise, It seems to me that GitLab is running circles around GitHub. Curious about other opinions.

My company also uses gitlab, while it is visibly slower that's not a huge problem. For a smaller teams it's just a matter of throwing a decent server with a lot of RAM and the problem disappears. At least for my team it seems to be good in However I'm not sure how it would perform with significantly larger loads.

Re: GitHub Alternatives

#55
post #9

"A couple of years ago Microsoft was anti-open-source." The quote is from 2001 as is Ballmer's quote. Closing the article due to its lack of objectivity.

There were more recent examples of foul behavior that was hostile towards FOSS. Like siding with Oracle on copyrightability of APIs[1]. Damage from this is still present today, until courts will declare APIs non copyrightable.

1. https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/MSFT-...

Re: GitHub Alternatives

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fixing an imago set by a guy calling open-source and Linux 'a cancer' is really hard. The last few years of changes doesn't magically wipe away that bitter taste, and the last 10-20 years doesn't magically make you forget the past.

At least some of that rhetoric was directed at the GPL specifically. And in that sense, many people in the open source world feel similarly and avoid copyleft.

Do you honestly know anyone in the "open source world" who avoids GNU and Linux?

Re: GitHub Alternatives

#58
Thumbs up to Phabricator, a software imo very underrated. Absolutely recommend if you are not very fond of Gitlab (furthermore, Phabricator's performance has been really good in my experience)

Re: GitHub Alternatives

#59
I’m only half joking when I say VSTS is a pretty strong contender in the code+issues space, especially if you need more complex features for CI/CD.

For obvious reasons it’s not a good option if you are switching from Github out of fear of Microsoft (which is presumably the reason it’s not listed in the article).

Re: GitHub Alternatives

#60
post #22
post #8

Why are people jumping ship to lower quality services ? And I'm talking about unrecognizable brand names, because at least migrating to Gitlab or Bitbucket may be understandable in a way, but still an exageration in my opinion.

I was alive when Microsoft was evil and I don't want my stuff to stay in a Microsoft service. I moved my pulic repositories to GitLab today. It's slower and it doesn't looks as nice but it's ok. I self host my private repositories, no need of a third party service for that. By the way, Bitbucket looks a little better than GitLab but its usability is abysmal. I always have troubles finding the things I want in there.

GitLab runs on Microsoft Azure. :)
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