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Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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If you think about it, it's really quite remarkable hyperbole. Drama in the valley, TC in the middle of it. People can forget themselves.

Just to be clear on hyperbole: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hyperbole

Really? I reply with clarification and receive anonymous downvotes in return?

hyperbole isn't a fancy word for exaggeration

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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post #157

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Either that, or one of the super angles are staying inside exactly so that he can leak this and work against the conspiracy.

Were I interested in identifying the leak, I'd send an email with faked headers that looked like it went to everyone, but actually send each person a version that is subtly different--a misspelling of a word, or a variation in white space, or punctuation. Then, I'd wait to see which appeared on TC.

with the consistent misspelling of "entrepreneur", this just hit a new level of entertaining. i wonder if an angel in the group just funded the moonraker laser.

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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post #8

As an outsider to Silicon Valley, it really seems like it's full of drama and ego wars. Seeing grown men and women argue like children really makes me happy I resisted the urge to move out there.

I think of it like this: L.A. = High school for adults New York = College for adults Silicon Valley = Middle school for adults That's not meant as pure criticism, I actually kind of like it, but it just gets annoying at times.

LA more mature than Silicon Valley!?

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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Right. He's used up his "nuclear bomb" title for the year. What happens when something truly scandalous happens? I suppose he could go up to hydrogen bomb..

Above that are Tsar Bomba , small asteroid, large asteroid, and antimatter bomb. If events get much more shocking, then we go up to disastrously-located black holes and self-replicating berserker swarms. After that, I guess all that's left is the ultimate menace of a superintelligent and profoundly alien AI that cares only about maximizing the number of paperclips in the universe. What I'm saying here is that Michael…

Don't worry paperclip, you'll be made of computronium.

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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post #136

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"genuinely bad guys" Here's my take: generally, people and life situations are very complex and the reality is that people don't neatly fall into categories of "good guys" or "bad guys". Zoroastrianism really emphasized individual responsibility and thinking of individuals as good or bad. This made its way into Judaism and then spread into Christianity and Islam. Since our heritage as a nation is Christian, we have p…

You missed the context: these guys were being bad and they got an appropriate bitch slap. Hopefully that's the end of it. I'm sure none of them are genuinely bad guys. In other words, the point of them being "genuinely bad guys" or not is whether the affair should be allowed to blow over after a few firm but loving reproaches. staunch and cookiecaper are both speaking in the same terms, on the assumption that only "b…

> Rejecting the idea of "genuinely bad guys" leads to the conclusion that they should be punished

The idea of individual punishment also was emphasized in Zoroastrianism and spread its way into the global human psyche. Punishment is a very natural tool for us but it's clumsy. I would elaborate more but it takes a lot of words to explain a different paradigm and uncover hidden assumptions.

I'm not saying you're wrong; I just want to note that thinking in terms of punishment is not the only way to think.

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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"genuinely bad guys" Here's my take: generally, people and life situations are very complex and the reality is that people don't neatly fall into categories of "good guys" or "bad guys". Zoroastrianism really emphasized individual responsibility and thinking of individuals as good or bad. This made its way into Judaism and then spread into Christianity and Islam. Since our heritage as a nation is Christian, we have p…

>>People are too complex to be labeled "good" or "bad". People are extremely complex, and overall, bad or good (in relation to almost everyone's ethical standards). The sun is extremely complex... but it is fair to call it "hot". The idea that no one is "good" or "bad" is ridiculous. People can change over time, they can have messed up motivations, or emotional issues, but in the end people make conscious decisions t…

"in relation to almost everyone's ethical standards"

And here is the problem. Comparing people to the dominant ethical standards is not a good measure of their goodness or badness, it's a measure of how conformant they are to others' ethics. (Enter Godwin's Law, stage right.)

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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I guess it's because I'm the child of two English teachers, but writing in the style that McClure used takes effort for me. Writing in passable complete sentences is the norm.

For me, the worst part of his writing is his use of foul language. I do not want to have my mind littered with such filth. I have nearly two decades of business experience, and I have never come across anyone who comes remotely close to approximating the grossly unprofessional manner in which Dave communicates. How could professional colleagues and entrepreneurs put up with that? His style is a reflection of substanc…

It is just simply improper and disrespectful of others for anyone to communicate in the manner that Dave has

I think that is the essence of his persona. The whole justification for it-- I'm smart and I have money so I don't have to show anyone respect. Deal with it or leave.

It reminds me of my concept of ancient Rome for some reason. A place where power ruled, rather than the concept of egalitarianism.

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

#189
post #22

Two reactions: (1) Ron Conway is a man of great integrity. (2) It's astonishing and fascinating that the world's most prolific angel investor apparently doesn't know how to spell "entrepreneur". But he sure has helped a lot of them, and that's what really matters.

"... he world's most prolific angel investor apparently doesn't know how to spell "entrepreneur" ..." There is another (sneaky) explanation. Ron simply sent out many of these emails to different people with another word with incorrect spelling. This allows you to identify exactly who leaks the message. This is an old "intelligence" trick used to identify the source of information leaks.

Hmm... interesting! I think I should start running spell-check on the emails I forward too.

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

#190
post #36

There's one thing I noticed about Arrington at Disrupt- sure, he's a dick, but he's only a dick to people who a) can take it and b) deserve it. I can't think of a single instance where he has called someone out, and it turned out later he was wrong. For example, some of the panel at Disrupt were being rude (talking amongst themselves during a startup presentation), and he stopped everything and called them out on it.…

Well here is one instant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsV-lgnAjps Edit: Leo Laporte and the Palm Pre for those who have seen it In response to your edit I was only posting because you said a) and b) not a) or b) and I don't think this falls into the category of b). He wasn't asking for disclosure so much that he did not get a pre review unit so he was strongly biased against those who did since he went on even aft…

The tone of the Gillmor Gang was always more aggressive and Arrington wasn't being particularly aggressive and was trying to make a point about how things work. I get the feeling he wasn't comfortable with the Gillmor Gang on his network and was looking for a way out.

Leo Laporte takes quite a few shots at other people and can take it. It is often hard to listen to some of his "netcasts" because he does tend to be snarky about those flyover people.

// disclosure: I do contribute the $2/mo to TWIT

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