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Re: YouTube Instant Creator Accepts Job At YouTube

#32

just playing devil's advocate here, but why is slapping together an API with some javascript worthy of a job offer? what's so exciting about YT instant? from hurley's twitter message, it sounds like he asked this kid to drop out of stanford to join youtube, which sounds a little crazy. maybe I just have no imagination. (congrats to the kid in any case)

The kid's innovative and imaginative, can clearly build and design product quickly, and has a Facebook and Stanford pedigree. That sounds like a winner to me.

Re: YouTube Instant Creator Accepts Job At YouTube

#33

just playing devil's advocate here, but why is slapping together an API with some javascript worthy of a job offer? what's so exciting about YT instant? from hurley's twitter message, it sounds like he asked this kid to drop out of stanford to join youtube, which sounds a little crazy. maybe I just have no imagination. (congrats to the kid in any case)

I agree and thank you for speaking what was on my mind as well. Anyone with moderate javascript skills could have a site like this up and running within 2 hours. I'm not even a fan of google instant though, oh well, to each his own.

Re: YouTube Instant Creator Accepts Job At YouTube

#34
post #33

just playing devil's advocate here, but why is slapping together an API with some javascript worthy of a job offer? what's so exciting about YT instant? from hurley's twitter message, it sounds like he asked this kid to drop out of stanford to join youtube, which sounds a little crazy. maybe I just have no imagination. (congrats to the kid in any case)

I agree and thank you for speaking what was on my mind as well. Anyone with moderate javascript skills could have a site like this up and running within 2 hours. I'm not even a fan of google instant though, oh well, to each his own.

Maybe anyone could, but it was Feross who did so. As well, I'm sure he still went through the YouTube interview process. YouTube Instant was just his foot in the door.

What's with the sour grapes?

Re: YouTube Instant Creator Accepts Job At YouTube

#35

just playing devil's advocate here, but why is slapping together an API with some javascript worthy of a job offer? what's so exciting about YT instant? from hurley's twitter message, it sounds like he asked this kid to drop out of stanford to join youtube, which sounds a little crazy. maybe I just have no imagination. (congrats to the kid in any case)

Feross also already had a great reputation (and resume). He is well known at Stanford, organizing ACM events, among other things.

Re: YouTube Instant Creator Accepts Job At YouTube

#36

just playing devil's advocate here, but why is slapping together an API with some javascript worthy of a job offer? what's so exciting about YT instant? from hurley's twitter message, it sounds like he asked this kid to drop out of stanford to join youtube, which sounds a little crazy. maybe I just have no imagination. (congrats to the kid in any case)

Why would anyone who has some coding skills and Rail skills build something like Twitter?

Because of his imagination. Stupid idea, but worth millions. Innovative people are hard to find.

Re: YouTube Instant Creator Accepts Job At YouTube

#37
post #29

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What are the IP implications?? Can FB claim the IP since he worked on it while working at FB?

Facebook cannot because it happened in California, and California has strong protections. See http://law.justia.com/california/codes/2009/lab/2870-2872.ht... for details. I'm firmly of the belief that this is very good for Silicon Valley. How many people do you know who work at a job and a startup on the side? In California that generally won't get you in trouble. Elsewhere?

Similar situation in European countries, where human rights laws override employment contracts.

Re: YouTube Instant Creator Accepts Job At YouTube

#38

just playing devil's advocate here, but why is slapping together an API with some javascript worthy of a job offer? what's so exciting about YT instant? from hurley's twitter message, it sounds like he asked this kid to drop out of stanford to join youtube, which sounds a little crazy. maybe I just have no imagination. (congrats to the kid in any case)

Things are not measured by how difficult or simple it was to create. It is measured by the result it produces.

He also validated for them that users want YouTube Instance without the company doing any work or taking any risks. For this reason alone, he deserves more than a job offer.

Re: YouTube Instant Creator Accepts Job At YouTube

#39
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the IP implications?? Can FB claim the IP since he worked on it while working at FB?

Facebook cannot because it happened in California, and California has strong protections. See http://law.justia.com/california/codes/2009/lab/2870-2872.ht... for details. I'm firmly of the belief that this is very good for Silicon Valley. How many people do you know who work at a job and a startup on the side? In California that generally won't get you in trouble. Elsewhere?

While I was working at IBM (in California), I tried to get clearance for one of my personal projects [1], the IBM lawyer had this to say:

"No, according to California Labor Code 2870, even if you use your own time/equipment, your project still belongs to IBM if your project relates to IBM's business, or actual or demonstrably anticipated research or development.

So if you think that your project is not close to anything that IBM is or will be involved in, you can tell your manager about it, and if they agree with your assessment, then you can tell me your project and I will try to get it cleared for you. In my experience though, it is hard to get clearance because IBM is involved in practically everything, esp. in the software field."

My manager was ok with it, but the IBM lawyers wouldn't clear it. I doubt they would have pursued any legal actions if I continued working on it, but I figured I'd rather not chance it and let it go.

[1] It was a FOSS Firefox add-on called Map+. IBM had a team somewhere that worked on Firefox add-ons, so even though I wasn't on, near, or had access to that team, it was a no go.

Re: YouTube Instant Creator Accepts Job At YouTube

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post #33

just playing devil's advocate here, but why is slapping together an API with some javascript worthy of a job offer? what's so exciting about YT instant? from hurley's twitter message, it sounds like he asked this kid to drop out of stanford to join youtube, which sounds a little crazy. maybe I just have no imagination. (congrats to the kid in any case)

I agree and thank you for speaking what was on my mind as well. Anyone with moderate javascript skills could have a site like this up and running within 2 hours. I'm not even a fan of google instant though, oh well, to each his own.

People often say "I could do that" when seeing a Jackson Pollock painting. The key is they didn't, Pollock did. Hindsight is 20/20 and skills in executing are a dime a dozen. I'd be willing to be the vast majority of HN users could have coded up Youtube Instant. The differentiator is Feross actually did it.
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