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Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by johannes1234321 »

kthejoker2 wrote: post #598
8_hours_ago wrote: post #528

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My company is concerned about that as well. We don’t use any cloud storage from Microsoft or anyone else, and we self host Exchange and SharePoint servers. That is a good point though, it’s becoming more and more inconvenient for a company to self host everything. Microsoft does stand to benefit from everyone becoming more accustomed to relying on 3rd party services in the cloud.

Serious question: do you think your company has better security than the Azure cloud? Or is it a trust issue with the cloud vendors themselves?

.... and if you don't trust Microsoft: Why use Exchange and such? :-)

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by IncRnd »

HelloWorldInWS wrote: post #593
IncRnd wrote: post #32

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4) Will they break the trust model of enterprise and private repositories, similar to how they broke the security model of connections in Skype after they purchased it? 5) Will they merge multiple accounts into one account, even though the user wants them separate, similar to how that was done with Skype and other services?

> ... even though the user wants them separate ... Which "the user" is this? The same user that uses GitHub's OAuth as single-sign-on credentials for other partnering sites like TravisCI, etc? If I was in the MS ecosystem and already had an identity that I could re-use (and didn't already have a GH account), I'd probably use that, just like those who login to various websites with their Google, Facebook, Amazon, or e…

You may not see why people would want separate accounts, but many people do. Sometimes the accounts are for different legal entities, such as work, personal, and for helping a charity. It is not correct to arbitrarily merge those.

Also, there may be different pay structures and packages used to pay for the services for each of those accounts. Hopefully, you can see how merging these can create far more work for the user, even when there are many cases that have negative benefit.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by jacquesm »

luckydata wrote: post #311
l5870uoo9y wrote: post #124

> GitHub will operate independently as a community, platform, and business. Had Github been bought by an foundation operating outside the confides of the market, then such statement would have been believable. Microsoft will naturally use Github maximise its wealth, thus when disagreements arise then Microsoft will put its will through. It is of course easy to imagine ways Github could be used by Microsoft, fore inst…

I work for Linkedin, MS is very respectful of our independence (sometimes in puzzling ways). It's kinda painful and annoying to read about all the negativity and tinfoil hat theories but that's the price to pay (I guess) and we'll see what happens. Microsoft has every interest in playing nice with the community and everything to lose from trying to do anything hostile to it.

> It's kinda painful and annoying to read about all the negativity and tinfoil hat theories but that's the price to pay (I guess) and we'll see what happens.

That's the price for being a deeply un-ethical company for many decades.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by klmr »

rapind wrote: post #495
sequoia wrote: post #259

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> Atom I could be wrong but my perception is that Atom is losing market share to VSCode all on its own– new devs are much more likely to adopt vscode & no growth ~= decline for an editor. Couple that with the fact that no one pays for Atom... IMO They don't need to "kill" atom, they just need to wait a couple years, at which point it will just Yet Another Editor down the list with TextWrangler et al., if the next Ato…

Anything that came out after vi is just another editor.

I very much share the sentiment and I’ve been using Vim (recently Neovim) pretty much exclusively for the last ~20 years. But VS Code “just works” to such an extent that I’m seriously tempted to use it.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by jacquesm »

luckydata wrote: post #322
dlisboa wrote: post #156

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Almost everything? Aside from keeping an updated resume I've never had a single job come from it, nor anyone I know. As far as networking it's useless too. It's just recruiter spam and people you never met adding you to their network. They also did the whole MITM attack on your e-mail's contacts a few years back. None of that is Microsoft's fault though, it's been useless for a while.

That's, like, your opinion man. Most of my jobs and most of my friends jobs have come through (or discovered thanks to) Linkedin. Before becoming an employee I used the site to find cofounders, people to interview for product feedback, check the background of possible hires... You don't use it or like it, fine. Linkedin has created economic opportunity for so many, it's kinda ridiculous to dismiss it out of hand.

Says the guy working for Linkedin.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17232483

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by Piskvorrr »

kthejoker2 wrote: post #598
8_hours_ago wrote: post #528

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My company is concerned about that as well. We don’t use any cloud storage from Microsoft or anyone else, and we self host Exchange and SharePoint servers. That is a good point though, it’s becoming more and more inconvenient for a company to self host everything. Microsoft does stand to benefit from everyone becoming more accustomed to relying on 3rd party services in the cloud.

Serious question: do you think your company has better security than the Azure cloud? Or is it a trust issue with the cloud vendors themselves?

Better is relative - especially in one metric: many eggs in one basket make that basket exponentially more attractive to evil actors. Bigger attack surface and whatnot...

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by Piskvorrr »

Rapzid wrote: post #329
Klathmon wrote: post #170

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While i'm confident that Atom will not "die" any time soon, if MS pulls the team that's currently working on new features and reassigns them, then at best it's going to be a large blow to the project. A fork won't have the same team working on it, a fork won't have the same domain knowledge over the internals, a fork won't have the roadmap or what was currently planned and how to do it, a fork won't have the same uni…

MS wouldn't pull the team; it would be GitHub that pulls the team. GitHub is operating as an independent company.

It is, now. A year down the road...?

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by Piskvorrr »

contextfree wrote: post #572
bitwize wrote: post #518

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More likely, they will make the new, NEW Windows API essentially Electron. Instantly Electron apps run better on Windows because each app doesn't have its own browser runtime taking ip disk/RAM.

The Microsoft/Windows implementation of PWA is already basically this

They're reinventing HTA, in other words. Oh the horror!

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by jey »

bambataa wrote: post #577
dragonwriter wrote: post #458

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> What's the difference between an "unmarked car" and a "nondescript vehicle" ? Unmarked police cars often have multiple radio antennae, flexible lights, and even government plates, they simply lack explicit police markings and light bars.

Surely an unmarked van owned by Apple would have none of that?

The point is that the "unmarked" vehicle sticks out as unusual even without having "Apple" or "Police" emblazoned on its side.
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