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Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by BugsJustFindMe »

martin1975 wrote: post #491
briandear wrote: post #484

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You can add CD ROM, the diskette drive, SCSI, ADB, FireWire and the LaserWriter to that. How dare they!

Notch decreases function and is aesthetically displeasing. 3.5 mm = 1) there is no way a wireless medium will ever have better throughput than a wired medium over a superb DAC - ever, 2) dongle, 3) extra battery worry now for BT. OpenGL, I will grant you that one, since both Metal and/or Vulkan are a vast improvement on OpenGL.

> Notch decreases function

I know that some people like to say this, but it's pretty clearly wrong, and it makes you look unobservant when you repeat it. It takes about five seconds and two phones to demonstrate this. The standard top section on every phone, Android and iOS alike, is a dedicated status section with little system icons with wide gaps of unused blank space between them. Every phone, every time. A notched phone just puts the camera directly between those icons instead of putting unused pixels there. It doesn't take a genius to see that un-notched phones have both larger top bezels and more pixels wasted in the status area. The notch doesn't cut into the screen. The screen extends up around the camera and puts the status icons on the horns.

> and is aesthetically displeasing

All of the tens of people I know who have notched phones say they love it and don't notice the notch. So, maybe to you, but it seems like the market is speaking.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by gumby »

komali2 wrote: post #422
brothercolor wrote: post #353

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Agreed -- as a Deaf person who uses visual languages to communicate, it's allowed me to actually begin to express myself using a set of pseudo-language visual elements. Some of them roughly map over to ASL expressions; I am looking forward to when they add ASL-specific emoji, or ASL language support, or even hands in the new animoji.

There's no way to say this without being insensitive, but this reminds me of a grade school joke without a punchline - "how do you write in sign-language?" Can you help me better understand what ASL language support would look like or what that would mean to you?

ASL (or any language's sign language) isn't a simple translation of gestures for words or letters; the different sign languages have their own grammars and a different "vocabulary". Think of every sign language user as being bilingual, with a sign language and a written language.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by dogweather »

greggman wrote: post #499
PakG1 wrote: post #486

The complaints here about how the new macOS does not have anything exciting or interesting is weird. I thought the best thing about the new macOS (and iOS) is that it's supposed to be Apple focusing on stability, rather than new features. Given all the bad things that have happened with macOS in the past year, I thought this was going to be appreciated. https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/30/apple-focus-on-software...

did they announce all the fixes? if not then I'd assume that's why people aren't focusing on them. I too would appreciate stability and fixes. I know they are listed in the notes for each release. Still if that really was the focus that needs to be communicated note I didn't watch the announcements so if they did emphasize that great!

I'm 100% with you. I heard nothing about focus on stability, or bug fixes. Really, just silence about it.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by dogweather »

jimbokun wrote: post #105
Apocryphon wrote: post #64

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I deeply suspect that the lack of features is because the releases this year internally centered around responding to the negative buzz associated with iOS 11 problems. I remember when emojis were showcased at WWDC 2016, a fairly low-feature release. Whenever that happens the true feature is unannounced: it's simply stability.

"Whenever that happens the true feature is unannounced: it's simply stability." Can't remember which version it was now, but I remember when Apple heavily marketed a Mac OS X version dedicated almost exclusively to bug fixes and performance enhancements. It was very well received. I'm sure the same would happen if they announced they were dedicating an iOS version to bug fixes and performance enhancements. EDIT: I th…

Exactly. But now, in contrast, they're silent on the issue of stability. I'll take them at their word: if they say they've only done X, Y, and Z, then I'll accept that this is all they've done.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by __david__ »

floatboth wrote: post #287
kridsdale1 wrote: post #246

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It’s more like Wine. Real native runtime libraries interacting an app API to a different underlying OS.

The underlying OS is extremely similar (they're both Darwin and they share the Core * frameworks). And unlike Wine, they won't be running unmodified binaries.

Well, it's closer to winelib [1], which is an integral part of Wine.

[1] https://wiki.winehq.org/Winelib_User%27s_Guide#What_is_Winel...

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by shyy »

PakG1 wrote: post #486

The complaints here about how the new macOS does not have anything exciting or interesting is weird. I thought the best thing about the new macOS (and iOS) is that it's supposed to be Apple focusing on stability, rather than new features. Given all the bad things that have happened with macOS in the past year, I thought this was going to be appreciated. https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/30/apple-focus-on-software...

High Sierra didn't have much notable or interesting either, and it proved to be the least stable release in a while by a damn sight.

Lately it seems like Apple has downshifted in competence all-around (at least on the Mac). I'll believe evidence to the contrary when I see it — not sooner.

I know that makes me seem like an HN Apple hater. And it pains me to say that. I've been a Mac fan since the mid-90s. I've tried to give them the benefit of the doubt for a few years, but at this point they've blown through that into deep red territory. It makes me sad :(

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by dogweather »

briandear wrote: post #506
reaperducer wrote: post #217

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>it's pretty cringy not only seeing them demo the new animoji stuff as well as people frantically clapping. Because you don't see the vision that the developers in that room do. You're thinking about yourself. You're not thinking about Apple expanding its user base and making more customers available for its developers and their companies. There was a lot of love in the keynote if you're a company looking at the bigg…

So much this. The complaints about Memoji for example, does anyone actually understand the possibilities of that tech, especially for making feature films? Think about the applications of that in areas such as hospitality or customer service as well. An augmented reality “person” to show you around your hotel room for example or help you check in for a flight using natural facial expressions — and super easy for a co…

I'm cranky because I want previous generations' features to work before they roll out new ones - that presumably also don't work very well.

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Post by kccqzy »

discordance wrote: post #416
icy_as_blue wrote: post #378

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Personal experience, emojis largely enrich my chats with friends and family. That’s one of the reasons I prefer WeChat over WhatsApp. In fact, WeChat even created platform to invite artists to create more emojis for the app.

I guess animated icons trump concerns about privacy and monitoring by a surveillance state [1] 1: https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/30/17302720/wechat-deleted-m...

How does this article support the idea that WeChat raises concerns about monitorig by a surveillance state?

The Chinese authorities in the article didn't "monitor" anything. They retrieved the deleted message from the phone itself. For all we know, it could be as innocuous as running a SQLite DELETE to delete the message and the scheduled vacuum hasn't run yet. I don't see any convincing evidence of either actual monitoring or Tencent conspiring to allow such monitoring.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by dogweather »

PakG1 wrote: post #486

The complaints here about how the new macOS does not have anything exciting or interesting is weird. I thought the best thing about the new macOS (and iOS) is that it's supposed to be Apple focusing on stability, rather than new features. Given all the bad things that have happened with macOS in the past year, I thought this was going to be appreciated. https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/30/apple-focus-on-software...

I take Apple at their word. If they don't claim to have focussed on stability in this release, then I won't assume that they did.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by aerotwelve »

jdietrich wrote: post #344
engi_nerd wrote: post #112

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How is an emoji a whole new way to communicate? EDIT: I meant this as a genuine question, not as a "how could you possibly think this" response.

I don't mean this to sound in any way cruel or judgemental, but a very large proportion of the population have very limited literacy skills. Emoji are useful for all users who are writing short, personal messages that might be ambiguous in tone. They are extremely useful for people who would otherwise struggle to express or understand tone and emotion using the written word. In the last National Assessment of Adult L…

What's the proper set of answer about the Dickenson passage? Does any interpretation count as correct?

(I know this thread isn't about the methodology of literacy assessment, but now I'm really curious to know how they do it. Does publicly available question-level response data exist somewhere out there? from previous years?)

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