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Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

obl wrote: post #271
yulaow wrote: post #227

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It would be a good riddance IF there was another universal API (Vulkan) and they would adopt it in substitution. The fact they want to force game developers to use instead Metal is... ridiculous, especially considering the extremely low macos marketshare, particularly outside US.

Sometimes at work I daydream about this alternate reality where we let go of the idea of an universal API on top GPUs and just let vendors publish some ISA and hardware-specific libs/drivers/docs. I'm sure people would figure out nice (and less nice) abstract libraries on their own just as well. It's so frustrating to read what the GPU is actually capable of (for example in the intel PRMs) and to know that there is a…

It's ok man, we can just keep piling on more turtles.

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Post by fdye »

engi_nerd wrote: post #112
jcfrei wrote: post #97

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Always interesting to see the divergence between HN and what the average user cares about. For most people emojis (and animojis) have opened a whole new way to communicate with each other. I can't think of another linguistic feature in history which saw such widespread use within a decade and I feel like emojis don't get enough credit for that.

How is an emoji a whole new way to communicate? EDIT: I meant this as a genuine question, not as a "how could you possibly think this" response.

It amuses me to think we have moved from the printed word back to hieroglyphs (emoji). Not in a derogatory way, communication is communication, but in a awe of older cultures. I like the thought experiment of imagining a fallen advanced civilization in Egypt. I imagine them stuck... watching their batteries drop to 0%, and turning to stone and emoji as the only way to persist communication.

What if printed words were really just a transitional state of language until their purest form, emoji!

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by Lio »

some_account wrote: post #131
IOT_Apprentice wrote: post #111

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Yet teens are a very popular demographic for buying iPhones, so if they like it, so what?

I'm a developer using the mac as a programming and devops system. I do not want teen features to be the best thing about my next upgrade. I want it to be about the computer feeling faster, smoother, better. You know, like an operating system feature?

This. MacBook Pros are getting more and more expensive surely they’re already outside of the teen demographics purchasing power.

It’s professionals and those that aspire to be professional who spend > £2,000 on a laptop.

I want decent UI (including keyboard shortcuts I can touch type), more features and better performance more than I want fluff like voice commands or anything-moji.

When thy said there another part of the platform they were ignoring I got excited for a moment.

I thought they bringing out an Apple official version of homebrew. Nope iOS apps.

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Post by paganel »

jcfrei wrote: post #97
MitjaBezensek wrote: post #73

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It's amazing that so many bright minds are wasting time on *oji.

Always interesting to see the divergence between HN and what the average user cares about. For most people emojis (and animojis) have opened a whole new way to communicate with each other. I can't think of another linguistic feature in history which saw such widespread use within a decade and I feel like emojis don't get enough credit for that.

> I can't think of another linguistic feature in history

Only slightly related, but this latest migration back to a "sign-like" language (the emojis) reminds me of Giambattista Vico's "Scienza Nuova" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Science), where at some point he says that the language spoken by the first humans ("the giants") was a "mute" one, based on "signs", which was correlated with a poetic sense of mind, so to speak.

> Beginning with the first form of authority intuited by the giganti or early humans and transposed in their first "mute" or "sign" language, Vico concludes that “first, or vulgar, wisdom was poetic in nature.” This observation is not an aesthetic one, but rather points to the capacity inherent in all men to imagine meaning via comparison and to reach a communal "conscience" or "prejudice" about their surroundings.

There's of course nothing scientific about Vico's discourse, but his themes somehow stick and resonate more (at least to people like me) compared to the latest linguistic findings.

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Post by sullyj3 »

saagarjha wrote: post #241
seanwilson wrote: post #152

I'm not sure what I'm expecting to be honest, but I never use any of the in-built macOS apps so I just skim over those announcements. They don't seem like they should be part of what's considered the OS.

Why not? Would you rather macOS shipped with no system apps?

I think they mean that the stock apps should be updated separately to the OS, like any normal app

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Post by imagetic »

I'd happily go back to paying for MacOS if it meant a focus on stability and performance improvements. I waited in line for the Snow Leopard release and to date it was probably the best era of the Mac. I haven't even brought my office up to High Sierra due to the number of problems it's caused with all of our software and SAN systems.

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Post by rconti »

notatoad wrote: post #252
brchr wrote: post #170

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WWDC 2009: 13" MacBook Pro and iPhone 3GS announced WWDC 2010: iPhone 4 announced WWDC 2012: Retina MacBook Pro announced WWDC 2013: new Mac Pro, Time Capsule, AirPort Extreme, and MacBook Air announced WWDC 2017: iMac, MacBook and MacBook Pro, iMac Pro, 10.5" iPad Pro and HomePod announced

So in the last 9 years, 5 have had major hardware announcements? Hardly seems like a trend.

Well, now, 5 of the last 10.

and more recently, 1 of the last 5.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by mey »

MrBingley wrote: post #96
0x0 wrote: post #33

Wow, they are DEPRECATING OpenGL from both macOS and iOS: https://developer.apple.com/macos/whats-new/ This is in addition to last year's announcement that "macOS High Sierra is the last version of macOS to run 32bit apps without compromise " I wonder if we will soon see a new lineage of Macbooks fitted with Apple-specific arm64 chips. The most scary thought is if UIKit-on-macOS starts requiring Developer ID entitlem…

And OpenCL too. This is terrible. I was thinking about adding GPU support to a numerical simulator I am working on, and I was planning to have nice cross-platform support with OpenCL. Whelp, that's no longer the case. My code is in C++, and I refuse to use proprietary, vendor-locked, Objective-C-only Metal. If people want GPU support, they'll just have to use Linux, which doesn't artificially constrain you with corpo…

Look into either an existing engine to abstract it away or Vulkan.

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Post by throwaway-hn123 »

wsc981 wrote: post #281
stormking wrote: post #178

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That idea was dismissed several thousand years ago, and for good reason. Text is way more powerful and precise than pictures. And I'm not saying having both is a bad thing, but this focus on Emojis is just idiotic.

When I chat with my Thai girlfriend, many miles away, we usually use the LINE app. We don't directly use emoji's, but we do use stickers [0] as part of our chat. And I feel stickers provide much the same use as emojis, the can more easily be used to convey emotions in a chat that would otherwise be harder to interpret correctly. --- [0]: https://store.line.me/stickershop/showcase/top/en

That's one of the main reasons I use Telegram - stickers + emojis + text is far more superior to just text.

I feel sorry for some of the emotionally crippled people upstream who are so dismissive of this.

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