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Re: Tactics of Psy-Group, Black Cube Revealed in Canadian Court Battle

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Post by jamra »

paganel wrote: post #19
rrggrr wrote: post #17

Where is the HN relevance? Did Psy-Group or Black Cube employ tech to conduct its influence operations? Were systems compromised? Was there a troll center posting in forums? Influence ops via technical means are a real problem for journalism and online communities and something relevant to HN. I'm not seeing how this article aligns with HN.

> Did Psy-Group or Black Cube employ tech to conduct its influence operations? Were systems compromised? It's not mentioned in the article, but Black Cube did try and succeed to break the gmail address of Laura-Codruta Kovesi a couple of years ago (she's head of the Romanian anti-corruption agency, a sort of what Antonio Di Pietro and Mani Pulite was for Italy back in the '90s). Allegedly the Black Cube contractors/e…

The article doesn't cover that. Do you have any references?

Re: Tactics of Psy-Group, Black Cube Revealed in Canadian Court Battle

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Post by paganel »

jamra wrote: post #41
paganel wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Did Psy-Group or Black Cube employ tech to conduct its influence operations? Were systems compromised? It's not mentioned in the article, but Black Cube did try and succeed to break the gmail address of Laura-Codruta Kovesi a couple of years ago (she's head of the Romanian anti-corruption agency, a sort of what Antonio Di Pietro and Mani Pulite was for Italy back in the '90s). Allegedly the Black Cube contractors/e…

The article doesn't cover that. Do you have any references?

A quick google search gave me this article in English: https://www1.agerpres.ro/english/2016/09/14/former-sri-offic... (from the national Romanian press agency) and there's also a dedicated section on Kovesi's wikipedia page in Romanian on which you can use Google Translat: https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Codru%C8%9Ba_K%C3%B6vesi....

The email thing is mentioned mostly in Romanian-only articles from 2 years ago, can't find the exact ones I remember reading back then. I found this new article in English, though (http://business-review.eu/news/romanias-dna-head-on-black-cu...), in which Kovesi denied that anyone successfully managed to hack into her emails. But the facts are that 2 Black Cube employees have just been found guilty by Romanian justice in this very case (and then they let them return home, to Israel).

Re: Tactics of Psy-Group, Black Cube Revealed in Canadian Court Battle

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Post by todd8 »

indigochill wrote: post #35
throwaway37585 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s wrong with being incorporated in Delaware?

Nothing, really, but some people think it's shady because Delaware has very corporate-friendly tax laws. So you'll have silly situations like a company that operates 100% in Missouri but is incorporated in Delaware to take advantage of their tax laws. Legal, but some people think it's cheesy.

Is it shady to live in Washington instead of California because of state income tax laws?

Re: Tactics of Psy-Group, Black Cube Revealed in Canadian Court Battle

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Post by rbanffy »

gadders wrote: post #31
anon007 wrote: post #25

OT: Paul Grahm founder of YC was placed on some kind of a blacklist by SV Israeli supporters after the twitter spat he had during Gaza bombing a few years ago. I believe the spat was between PG and Mark Suster, if I remember correctly.

This was the only link I could find about this: https://pando.com/2014/08/05/graham-and-suster-square-off-ov...

I can do nothing but commend pg for his commitment to stop what I personally think is close to shooting fish in a barrel. Except it's people and the barrel is mostly dry.

Re: Tactics of Psy-Group, Black Cube Revealed in Canadian Court Battle

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Post by arthur_pryor »

todd8 wrote: post #43
indigochill wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing, really, but some people think it's shady because Delaware has very corporate-friendly tax laws. So you'll have silly situations like a company that operates 100% in Missouri but is incorporated in Delaware to take advantage of their tax laws. Legal, but some people think it's cheesy.

Is it shady to live in Washington instead of California because of state income tax laws?

only if you just claim to live there for tax benefits, but don't actually reside in the state.

Re: Tactics of Psy-Group, Black Cube Revealed in Canadian Court Battle

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Post by davidf18 »

rbanffy wrote: post #44
gadders wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was the only link I could find about this: https://pando.com/2014/08/05/graham-and-suster-square-off-ov...

I can do nothing but commend pg for his commitment to stop what I personally think is close to shooting fish in a barrel. Except it's people and the barrel is mostly dry.

There is context which neither you nor pg presumably understand.

Gaza is closed off not only by Israel but by Egypt in the latter case it is because terrorists from Gaza have killed many Egyptian soldiers in Sinai. Israel is in fact using its technology to save the lives of Egyptian soldiers.

Israel pulled out of Gaza and the Palestinians elected to lead them Hamas, a terrorist organization according to the EU, US, and Israel that also brags about blowing up family restaurants such as Sbarro in Jerusalem where a pregnant American woman died among many others.

They chose terrorists to lead them over Fatah. Instead of improving Gaza, Hamas used funding to shoot missiles into Israel and to dig tunnels into Israel attempting to kill civilians.

Israel ended up developing the Iron Dome missile system that protected Israeli civilians from rockets from Hamas. Israel now has a joint venture with Raytheon building and selling these weapons systems. Three countries besides Israel have thus far purchased them.

It was when Iron Dome made Hamas missiles ineffective that Hamas began building tunnels into Israel to attack civilians.

The 2014 conflict was the third conflict (2008, 2012, 2014) and in that conflict Saudi Arabia and Egypt both backed Israel over Hamas.

GAZA KINDERGARTEN GRADUATION CEREMONY: KIDS STAGE MOCK MILITARY ATTACK AND HOSTAGE-TAKING https://www.memri.org/tv/gaza-kindergarten-ceremony-stage-mi...

Re: Tactics of Psy-Group, Black Cube Revealed in Canadian Court Battle

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Post by gadders »

rbanffy wrote: post #44
gadders wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was the only link I could find about this: https://pando.com/2014/08/05/graham-and-suster-square-off-ov...

I can do nothing but commend pg for his commitment to stop what I personally think is close to shooting fish in a barrel. Except it's people and the barrel is mostly dry.

I think PG is entirely wrong and Mark Suster was entirely right on that subject.

Re: Tactics of Psy-Group, Black Cube Revealed in Canadian Court Battle

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Post by atomical »

anon007 wrote: post #25

OT: Paul Grahm founder of YC was placed on some kind of a blacklist by SV Israeli supporters after the twitter spat he had during Gaza bombing a few years ago. I believe the spat was between PG and Mark Suster, if I remember correctly.

Proof?

Re: Tactics of Psy-Group, Black Cube Revealed in Canadian Court Battle

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Post by atomical »

anon007 wrote: post #25

OT: Paul Grahm founder of YC was placed on some kind of a blacklist by SV Israeli supporters after the twitter spat he had during Gaza bombing a few years ago. I believe the spat was between PG and Mark Suster, if I remember correctly.

dang, this violates HN guidelines.
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