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Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by wlesieutre »

drcode wrote: post #66
wlesieutre wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, New, Stocks, and Voice Memos are really there as the first public tests of UIKit’s Mac port. And desktop icons might not be a huge deal, but I’m glad to see Apple acknowledging that they’re useful and continuing to improve it, in contrast with major Linux distros removing files from the desktop entirely. For the Mac App Store, developers have been complaining about how subpar, useless, and stagnant it’s b…

It'll certainly be nice to have the fingerprinting feature on my macbook pro, given how difficult it is for me to type in a password error free using their unreliable keyboards.

Not sure if serious, but fingerprinting as in device fingerprinting for tracking scripts. If you want a fingerprint enabled password manager those exist already.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by macintux »

EpicEng wrote: post #142
jcfrei wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Always interesting to see the divergence between HN and what the average user cares about. For most people emojis (and animojis) have opened a whole new way to communicate with each other. I can't think of another linguistic feature in history which saw such widespread use within a decade and I feel like emojis don't get enough credit for that.

> For most people emojis (and animojis) have opened a whole new way to communicate with each other Wow that is an extremely generous characterization. At best they're just prettier versions of :) and :( and I don't see how they allow people to convey ideas they couldn't do just as well via text.

What’s the text version of a birthday cake?

More challenging: what’s the text version of a singing, eye-rolling T-Rex?

It’s fine to not care about emoji, but you can’t logically dismiss them as prettier smilies.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by naravara »

toasterlovin wrote: post #116

IMO, the most interesting thing happening with Apple right now is the surprising (to me) amount of effort being put into their News and Stock apps (which are being ported to macOS). The only reason I can come up with for them to be pursuing this with so much effort is that they saw what happened as a result of Facebook dominating news and decided to put their best foot forward in the hopes of bringing some semblance…

>IMO, the most interesting thing happening with Apple right now is the surprising (to me) amount of effort being put into their News and Stock apps (which are being ported to macOS).

I think you missed the hidden story there (and by 'hidden' I mean, they actually mentioned it during the keynote). They announced that they're working on a toolkit to easily port over iOS apps into MacOS with very few manual changes to the code.

The effort they're putting into porting News, Stocks, etc. into MacOS is actually just them field-testing their UIKit AppKit conversion platform.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by paulcole »

EpicEng wrote: post #142
jcfrei wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Always interesting to see the divergence between HN and what the average user cares about. For most people emojis (and animojis) have opened a whole new way to communicate with each other. I can't think of another linguistic feature in history which saw such widespread use within a decade and I feel like emojis don't get enough credit for that.

> For most people emojis (and animojis) have opened a whole new way to communicate with each other Wow that is an extremely generous characterization. At best they're just prettier versions of :) and :( and I don't see how they allow people to convey ideas they couldn't do just as well via text.

Yeah I agree. Why would anyone prefer something that looked nicer than an old thing? Has anything like this phenomenon ever been observed in the past?

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by bitL »

Tehchops wrote: post #127
MrBingley wrote: post #96

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And OpenCL too. This is terrible. I was thinking about adding GPU support to a numerical simulator I am working on, and I was planning to have nice cross-platform support with OpenCL. Whelp, that's no longer the case. My code is in C++, and I refuse to use proprietary, vendor-locked, Objective-C-only Metal. If people want GPU support, they'll just have to use Linux, which doesn't artificially constrain you with corpo…

Aren't most people running those kinds of workloads doing so on Linux already? Doesn't seem cost-effective at scale to run on beefy Apple machines.

People used to buy expensive eGPUs for those workloads to keep them on macOS.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by Eridrus »

Tehchops wrote: post #127
MrBingley wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And OpenCL too. This is terrible. I was thinking about adding GPU support to a numerical simulator I am working on, and I was planning to have nice cross-platform support with OpenCL. Whelp, that's no longer the case. My code is in C++, and I refuse to use proprietary, vendor-locked, Objective-C-only Metal. If people want GPU support, they'll just have to use Linux, which doesn't artificially constrain you with corpo…

Aren't most people running those kinds of workloads doing so on Linux already? Doesn't seem cost-effective at scale to run on beefy Apple machines.

People just getting into a field like to run code on their personal machines. This can be quite relevant when your code gets a 50X speedup from running on GPU.

This is sort of like saying "people only do web serving workloads on Linux, we don't need web servers to run on Apple machines" to me.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by cdelsolar »

MitjaBezensek wrote: post #73
janlukacs wrote: post #14

WWDC 2018, from underwhelming to boring. I will lose my mind if i hear *oji one more time. Will they ever stop with this nonsense? Favicons in Safari? It took them 6 years for the browser to remember the zoom setting per site, now we have the luxury of having favicons.

It's amazing that so many bright minds are wasting time on *oji.

Emoji are amazing, stop it.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by protomyth »

0x0 wrote: post #33

Wow, they are DEPRECATING OpenGL from both macOS and iOS: https://developer.apple.com/macos/whats-new/ This is in addition to last year's announcement that "macOS High Sierra is the last version of macOS to run 32bit apps without compromise " I wonder if we will soon see a new lineage of Macbooks fitted with Apple-specific arm64 chips. The most scary thought is if UIKit-on-macOS starts requiring Developer ID entitlem…

Doesn't Core Image use the OpenGL Shading Language, so is that going too?

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by brchr »

xrisk wrote: post #92
butterfi wrote: post #75

Was I crazy in thinking that this WWDC was supposed to address MacBookPro's being outdated?

Yes. It's a software conference.

WWDC 2009: 13" MacBook Pro and iPhone 3GS announced

WWDC 2010: iPhone 4 announced

WWDC 2012: Retina MacBook Pro announced

WWDC 2013: new Mac Pro, Time Capsule, AirPort Extreme, and MacBook Air announced

WWDC 2017: iMac, MacBook and MacBook Pro, iMac Pro, 10.5" iPad Pro and HomePod announced

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