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Re: Hello, GitHub

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I wouldn't be worried about Atom; half of Facebook is using it; if anything were to happen, they would fork it.

While i'm confident that Atom will not "die" any time soon, if MS pulls the team that's currently working on new features and reassigns them, then at best it's going to be a large blow to the project. A fork won't have the same team working on it, a fork won't have the same domain knowledge over the internals, a fork won't have the roadmap or what was currently planned and how to do it, a fork won't have the same uni…

Nuclide (https://nuclide.io) is what FB uses/develops internally. I think even if the original team departs, they are going to be just fine. They could hire the original team right away if needed.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Can you promise that Microsoft employees will not browse and otherwise process private repositories?

They have some dozen different kind of SaaS platforms (think of Office, Azure, ...). When they do that in an ill-defined way, they are done. And with "done" I mean the whole company. The financial lose would be dramatic.

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> Will Facebook/Google/Apple start pulling their code from GitHub? For these companies who owned GitHub hardly plays a role. They want to attract developers and go wherever the crowds go. If there is mass migration to mercurial-superhost.com they will follow. It's just an outlet. The question is more relevant for companies and communities who built their infrastructure on it and might worry for good or not so good re…

I think public code will still live on github, but I See FAANG 100% avoiding any private github repos from now on.

They already did. Except maybe for test setups and to configure a project before announcing it.

All those companies keep their privates private. GitHub is just a public showroom for them.

Again this is different for other/smaller companies.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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What would be wrong having a Microsoft account to log in exactly? They aren't getting any more information from you then they have currently purchased. I remember when I had a YouTube account, a blogger account and a Google account and I am glad I just use one google account myself.

Microsoft accounts are a trainwreck... I've got at least three or four of them all with the same email address, and despite years of effort to link them together and consolidate, I still have to use all of them to log into different services and access different resources. The permissioning on things like Azure and VSTS doesn't make a lick of sense.

Google kind of managed to force most accounts together. ;-)

In the process it seems they managed to seriously undermine their new, really really nice social network by using the same name for that and now me and a few others have a nice social network all to ourselves :-\

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Then I'll change part of the URL I've soft coded from ...hub... to ...lab... to ... bucket...

Any reason why you implicitly trust Atlassian?

Does s/he implicitly trust Atlassian?

If anything, that comment makes it clear to me that they're staying mobile because they don't implicitly or explicitly trust any of the current providers.

I think if they implicitly trusted someone, they'd just migrate to them immediately - why wouldn't you?

Re: Hello, GitHub

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I really like what Microsoft did in the past 2-3 years on the open source side and I keep my fingers crossed hopin they will do a good job with github too :)

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None of those are meaningful contributions to existing platforms/projects that MS does not own outright. They're throwing code of the wall. MS's contributions to git are very light. Edit: clarify my point.

> But one could argue that those contributions to git are just to further MS's interests. Of course they are! Everything a corporation does is to further its own interests. Most (large) companies don't contribute to open source out of the goodness of their hearts.

> Everything a corporation does is to further its own interests.

This is a common misconception. It's a close cousin of the "increase shareholder value" school of thought, which has widely (and correctly) been called "the world's dumbest idea": https://www.google.com/search?q=the+world's+dumbest+idea

We exist in a complex society. It is everybody's job to maintain that society. We do that through things like voting and paying taxes. But also through making the world better directly. Companies that only do things they perceive to be in their immediate pecuniary interest are essentially parasitic. And, at least sometimes, are rightly shunned for their self-centered behavior.

If Microsoft is trying to grow up and be a good corporate citizen, I applaud them. But if they are, as you say, only putting on a mask of neighborliness because that's their plan of the moment to fill their pockets, then there's no reason to welcome or trust them.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Btw If Microsoft would mean that seriously (supporting open source) the new owner would be some foundation (something like mozilla).

7 billion dollars? And how should they explain that to the shareholders. What they will hopefully do: run it like it but do not make it official.

Honestly I'm thinking they'll have to explain why they bought empty box for $ 7bln.
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