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Re: Hello, GitHub

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I’m going to be a bit contrarian to “the sky is falling” posts on HN and say: I think Microsoft is handling this really well. 1) They’ve acknowledged the skepticism around the acquisition. 2) They’ve expressed their commitment to keep GitHub an independent platform (like they did with LinkedIn.) 3) Nat Friedman, although I was not familiar with him prior to this, seems like an ideal candidate to run GitHub. This, ove…

I'm glad they're doing this. If anything the only ones misbehaving are the skeptics making claims they'll likely be disproved over. Also has been noted if they had issues with this happening they should of never used GitHub to begin with. I guess devs are religious about git hosting platforms aside from text editors and programming languages.

>likely be disproved over

I wouldnt say 'likely' this is M$ we are talking about.

And I used to be a Microsoft fanboy.

Re: Hello, GitHub

#203
post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because people with closed source, the paying customers, now have to trust their potential biggest competitor with their source code ‽

So you tell that people trust private company which was loosing money since the creation better than Microsoft with all of its reputation at stake?

Yes. 100% yes. Microsoft didn't care about their reputation for a long time. They currently do, at least a little, but that could change back.

Github was losing money, but that's pretty typical for SaaS businesses. I have no reason to think they couldn't have gotten to break-even. And if the can't get to break even, I have no reason to think Microsoft will subsidize them indefinitely.

Re: Hello, GitHub

#204

Btw If Microsoft would mean that seriously (supporting open source) the new owner would be some foundation (something like mozilla).

7 billion dollars? And how should they explain that to the shareholders. What they will hopefully do: run it like it but do not make it official.

Re: Hello, GitHub

#205
post #7

I’m going to be a bit contrarian to “the sky is falling” posts on HN and say: I think Microsoft is handling this really well. 1) They’ve acknowledged the skepticism around the acquisition. 2) They’ve expressed their commitment to keep GitHub an independent platform (like they did with LinkedIn.) 3) Nat Friedman, although I was not familiar with him prior to this, seems like an ideal candidate to run GitHub. This, ove…

Agreed, it's way too early to pull out the pitchforks until they've had time to demonstrate their sincerity on tackling these issues (and failed).

By that time you will have a microsoft login to access github and that after 15 downloads you pay 9.99 for premium.

Its time to get everything off Github right away.

Re: Hello, GitHub

#207
post #7

I’m going to be a bit contrarian to “the sky is falling” posts on HN and say: I think Microsoft is handling this really well. 1) They’ve acknowledged the skepticism around the acquisition. 2) They’ve expressed their commitment to keep GitHub an independent platform (like they did with LinkedIn.) 3) Nat Friedman, although I was not familiar with him prior to this, seems like an ideal candidate to run GitHub. This, ove…

I agree, my biggest concerns are: 1. What is happening to Atom? I have tried VS code and don't really like it due to the difference in how the 2 systems are designed to work (Atom being more "plugins are king", VSCode being more "kitchen sink included by first-party"). I'd hate to see my favorite editor lose it's major backing. If MS makes a commitment to continue to develop Atom, or they work with someone else to "t…

Obviously Microsoft doesn't want or need two open source editors. I think the smart move would be what I call the Adobe strategy.

Github should announce that Atom has become an Apache foundation project. Github then says it will provide x number of developers for an initial three year period. Probably won't make everyone happy but it should defuse most of the angst.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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post #189
post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they shrink it a bit down and cut administrative overhead (synergy) and some engineering (eg atom (buuh)). The later they can also reorganize. For them it just does not need to lose too much money.

They spent 7GUSD+ on it. It is dozens of years of GitHub revenue...

The investment .. forget that. That does not need to refinance itself (unofficially)

Re: Hello, GitHub

#209
post #63

I'm split on this one. I lived through Microsoft's dark ages, when the victory of open source was still hanging by a thread. The reason we're seeing a softer Microsoft is that they lost, they were forced to change. And the open question is what they learned in the process. On the other hand, they're producing pretty decent software these days; dotNet Core, TypeScript & VSCode just to name a few solid projects. Open s…

>I think I'm going to leave my code in there for now and give them a chance to redeem themselves.

Why would you do that?

I mean, at least import the code to other repos

Re: Hello, GitHub

#210
Good to hear. Still, I have these memories of Facebook buying Whatsapp for too much money and first saying it will be impossible to integrate both platforms. Surprise, surprise, later they did find a way to integrate.

Microsoft paying 7.5B for something that looses money every year ? And not having any problems with that ? What will the shareholders say ?

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