> I’m not asking for your trust, but I’m committed to earning it. Corporate bullshit.
Honestly, yes. But honestly, the same statement as everyone here is writing: "They have not[ yet] earned my trust".
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#182Goodbye Github. No way I trust Microsoft with my private code. Hello Gitlab.
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#183> PS: I’ll be doing an AMA on Reddit in the next few days, I hope to see you there!
It's a bit of shame that that's the location of choice for hosting an AMA. The AMA subreddit is good, but it's trapped in the toxic cesspool that is Reddit overall.
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#184Make Github Great Again!
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#186> GitHub will operate independently as a community, platform, and business. Had Github been bought by an foundation operating outside the confides of the market, then such statement would have been believable. Microsoft will naturally use Github maximise its wealth, thus when disagreements arise then Microsoft will put its will through. It is of course easy to imagine ways Github could be used by Microsoft, fore inst…
For the last 20 years or so, Microsoft lost a lot of mind-share. They are good at developer tools and GitHub provides them with the venue for the community. Unless Microsoft sees amazing value on the Community platform of GitHub they would not have spent $7.5 Billion on it. They do realize developer brain-trust is the long game they need to win, and GitHub fits that strategy.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
That article is written using very inflammatory language -- I am very wary to take it at face value, because an author using this kind of language is very unlikely to deeply analyze what Ballmer actually said. Furthermore, this was said two decades ago. Take it with a grain of salt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis... Some brief history refresher: - Apple + Microsoft "collaborating" on Macintosh software = Windows - IBM + Microsoft "collaborating" on OS/2 = the NT kernel, Windows NT - Sybase + Microsoft "collaborating" on Sybase SQL server = MS SQL Server - Sun + Microsoft "embracing" Java = .NET Framework "Take it with a grain of salt".
You were downvoted... What in the hell is wrong with HN users? Are they all children? These events are well within living memory for a lot of us.
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/06/02/ballmer_linux_is_a_... Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO said: "Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches" That is a direct attack to open source licensing and open source software. Microsoft had to take that back after they were beaten in the market and lost popularity among developers. Now it's plan B: govern open source pro…
That article is written using very inflammatory language -- I am very wary to take it at face value, because an author using this kind of language is very unlikely to deeply analyze what Ballmer actually said. Furthermore, this was said two decades ago. Take it with a grain of salt.
The Register is well known for its less stuffy style, it doesn't mean much.
In any case, the original isn't hard to find: https://web.archive.org/web/20011108013601/http://www.suntim...
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#189How is MS expected to make money on this?
I think they shrink it a bit down and cut administrative overhead (synergy) and some engineering (eg atom (buuh)). The later they can also reorganize. For them it just does not need to lose too much money.
They spent 7GUSD+ on it. It is dozens of years of GitHub revenue...
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#190I’m going to be a bit contrarian to “the sky is falling” posts on HN and say: I think Microsoft is handling this really well. 1) They’ve acknowledged the skepticism around the acquisition. 2) They’ve expressed their commitment to keep GitHub an independent platform (like they did with LinkedIn.) 3) Nat Friedman, although I was not familiar with him prior to this, seems like an ideal candidate to run GitHub. This, ove…
Yes same here. I’m really surprised by all the Microsoft hate as if we were still in the 80-90’s. MS is one of the biggest open source contributors nowadays. It's also really weird how people idealize GitHub. Did they forget GitHub was not a non-profit association, they were losing money, they deleted users repositories on their own, they had management issues, and people have been waiting some features for very long…
Once bitten, twice shy.
Moreover, although I agree Microsoft is making efforts to change [1], pro-Microsoft partisans make it clear much of this is due to the new CEO. What one CEO does, another can undo. GitHub's bus factor is now 1.
I would much rather have seen them go public. They were losing money, but not, last I saw, at a rate that was absurd for building a SaaS business. Is there some reason to think they couldn't have gotten into the black? And if so, is there some reason to think Microsoft will let them burn cash forever without getting anything valuable in return?
Previously, GitHub's success depended on GitHub serving their customers and users. Now it depends on the notions of some guy in Seattle. Some guy whose job is, at least by market cap, 99% focused on other things. It's reasonable for customers to worry about that.