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Microsoft is still the same, believe me. I've visited their HQ in .ch recently and even they confirmed it internally.

So when you visited their HQ recently, they told you that they are the same as they were in the 90's?

I actually visited, because we were invited to talk about a partnership in the area of Open Source. While the talk was certainly interesting, I was asking my contact directly, how the situation is internally. And while he is very much into Open Source and trying to push it (within and for Microsoft), he made it very clear that this is only a tiny portion of Microsoft and that the mindset of 90%+ of Microsoft is still the old one, trying to get rid of your competitors.

Re: Your GitHub Alternative

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I’m not entirely sure why people are freaking out at this point. This is not the Microsoft of the 90s. How many of these folks are happy to use VSCode and then turn around and panic at this acquisition?

I'd imagine those "freaking out" are at some mid-point, between trusting companies enough to not screw things up, and being so distrusting that they'd never rely on such services in the first place.

You seem to be at the trusting end, which is fine; personally, I'm at the distrusting end, so the reason I'm not freaking is that GitHub (AKA BitKeeper 2.0) could go up in flames and all I'd lose is a free mirror.

PS: I've never used VSCode; I avoid it partly because of its connection to Microsoft, but mostly because I'm very happy in Emacs :)

Re: Your GitHub Alternative

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I’m not entirely sure why people are freaking out at this point. This is not the Microsoft of the 90s. How many of these folks are happy to use VSCode and then turn around and panic at this acquisition?

I use VSCode on Arch Linux and recommend it to others over Atom and such mainly because MS knows how to build dev-tools.

Now, there is always a limit you want a company to get under your skin.

Example where MS F-ed it up are: LinkedIn, Yammer, Skype, Nokia, Code Project, CodePlex, and many more, etc, including they sent their Trojan Horse to take over Yahoo but did not work out because some people actually cared. One of the best projects is going to die. Github. MS is pushing VS/TFS on your throat. Wait and see.

This is in their DNA, they don't know open source, they don't understand it. For that to work they would have to fire 90% of the red-mond ppl and blood sucking consulting companies around them and their top managers would have to start caring about tech not their bonuses and performance numbers at the end of 3 months sprint. They care about their mortgages and that next sports car. THERE is no open source that they understand. Every single piece of open source they built so far that had some success like TypeScript is still geared to pull you back into Windows eco-system, in a very subtle way.

They know Outlook, TFS/Visual Studio, CRM. Done. That is the future for Github. This happened and will happen, that is MS.

And for them to throw this "acquisition" up there to hit the fan is a VERY BAD and SAD move.

Also there is a reason WHY MS became platinum on Linux - they fucked-up windows too and they ran out of options.

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