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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

kerng wrote: post #568
zachruss92 wrote: post #27

I am a GitLab user and have been for about 2 years now. With that being said, I think this acquisition makes a ton of sense strategically. Microsoft has really been trying to change their identity from being a stuffy close-source corporation to an open company that developers can rely on. And they have done pretty well at this. They open sourced .net, run MS SQL on Linux, and have released the WSL (which would have b…

It's a great move for both, and as a developer I like the opportunities this creates for tooling and productivity. Good to see those two dev focused organizations team up!

What opportunities does it create for tooling and productivity that wouldn't otherwise exist?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by hrabago »

munificent wrote: post #607
crazygringo wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Corporations aren't people. If you change the leadership and change employee incentives, it might as well be a different company. Sure there's cultural inertia... but incentives trump culture every time.

Yes, but the argument that they have changed is an equally compelling argument that we can't be confident they won't change again in the future.

True, but you can say that for any company. At least in this case, you can consider their past 5 years, see what moves they make and what statements they have released, and judge whether their words and matching their actions.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by anonymouswacker »

lwansbrough wrote: post #617
falcon620 wrote: post #567

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Github, unlike Microsoft is not particularly dependant on US government contracts.

NSA doesn't have to ask, so this is a moot point.

Exactly. This is why there's no point in encryption, or any sort of obfuscation.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by gazarsgo »

pmlnr wrote: post #449
tjoff wrote: post #354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Friendly reminder: Skype was pure garbage before MS acquired it. I have no idea from where people got the idea that MS ruined Skype. Started the browser wars? Too bad the browser wars have been too small, because we obviously haven't learned anything from them.

> Skype was pure garbage before MS acquired it. You have a weird memory. Skype was a very nice thing back in ~2009-2010.

Skype grabs port 80 and 443 by default, which is not very nice. Since at least 2010, but ISTR even earlier than that.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by daniel-levin »

codetrotter wrote: post #15

> And Microsoft is all-in on open source. We have been on a journey with open source, and today we are active in the open source ecosystem, we contribute to open source projects, and some of our most vibrant developer tools and frameworks are open source. When it comes to our commitment to open source, judge us by the actions we have taken in the recent past, our actions today, and in the future. It’s a fair point bu…

The MS of today has massive skin in this OSS game. They've been contributing to the Linux kernel for years now [0]. They've got over 4000 repos on GitHub. Many projects are actively developed on GH. As an example, the VS code team solicits contributions on GH [1]. It's hard to say what kind of resources have been invested in .NET core and the open source compilers (Roslyn) and the CLR. Substantial resources.

If you told me 5/10 years ago about these developments I would have never believed you.

I don't think it's fair to reason about a (40+ year old, 100k+ employees, public) company's behaviour as if it has a mind. It doesn't.

[0] https://www.zdnet.com/article/top-five-linux-contributor-mic...

[1] https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING...

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by ekr »

Ornstein wrote: post #512
jhasse wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* Drop DirectX for Vulkan * Drop MSVC for Clang or GCC * Drop Edge for Firefox or Chromium because they love open-source, right?

This is just ridiculous. The other points may/may not make sense but drop direct-x for vulkan? What? It'd have made more sense to make Direct-X open source than just dump it like it's useless. It's not like windows drivers for GPUs don't support vulkan. Direct-X has had a history of being the superior graphics API to OGL. Now, VULKAN evens things out a bit but just dumping so much of RnD for nothing doesn't make sens…

> Direct-X has had a history of being the superior graphics API to OGL.

That view is fairly one-sided, to say the least. The history is presented in this StackExchange thread: https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/6054....

But to summarize: OpenGL was the standard before D3D was created. D3D has been a step behind OpenGL in features and performance up to about D3Dv7. Then the OpenGL ARB screwed up, with Microsoft among the members (some hypothesize that Microsoft were attempting to sabotage OpenGL).

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by sevensor »

nimbius wrote: post #117

Friendly reminder: this is the same Microsoft that "empowered" skype and once called open source a cancer. Its the same Microsoft that ruined open document standards and started the browser wars. I wouldnt be surprised to see next years release of "Github Pro Platinum with Minecraft 3D and Windows Store integration" For those looking to move, https://gitlab.com is an excellent open source alternative that can easily…

There's cgit if you just want people to be able to clone over https. They can always e-mail you patches.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by kara_jade »

hobofan wrote: post #173
nimbius wrote: post #117

Friendly reminder: this is the same Microsoft that "empowered" skype and once called open source a cancer. Its the same Microsoft that ruined open document standards and started the browser wars. I wouldnt be surprised to see next years release of "Github Pro Platinum with Minecraft 3D and Windows Store integration" For those looking to move, https://gitlab.com is an excellent open source alternative that can easily…

Also the company that was responsible for killing the Limux project[0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux

May be of further interest to German-speaking folks in Munich: there will be a discussion about LiMux on 11th June with former Munich mayor Christian Ude and others.

https://www.gruene-muenchen.de/terminliste/termin/freie-fahr...

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by cobalt »

danso wrote: post #616
Method-X wrote: post #587

I wonder if GitHub will stop development on Atom and move to VS Code.

That’s a good question. Hard to imagine MS justifying resources for Atom, when VS Code is a direct competitor.

given that they are both open source products making (afaik) no money...
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