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Why We Disagree with The New York Times

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Re: Why We Disagree with The New York Times

#21

It reads like a long defensive argument, "how else did you expect us to make huge sums of money"? It is exactly as tone-deaf and legalese as you would expect. There is no new information here; Facebook says legal contracts actually protect your data so it can't go anywhere, "just trust us", etc. > These partners signed agreements that prevented people’s Facebook information from being used for any other purpose than…

... and thus begins a new series of regulations designed to pierce the plausible deniability of "terms of service". People complain about GDPR and other regulations, but they are created to close loopholes that were abused by companies like Facebook.

It seems like we're seeing how scalable the mantra of "ask for forgiveness, not permission" really is.

Not Facebook scale, apparently.

Re: Why We Disagree with The New York Times

#23
The limited responses so far in this thread only reinforce many companies decisions to pull support for public apis. How many years have developers been complaining that twitter and facebook have been restricting access to apis for 3rd parties, but now all of a sudden they're evil for ever offering apis to begin with?

Re: Why We Disagree with The New York Times

#25

It reads like a long defensive argument, "how else did you expect us to make huge sums of money"? It is exactly as tone-deaf and legalese as you would expect. There is no new information here; Facebook says legal contracts actually protect your data so it can't go anywhere, "just trust us", etc. > These partners signed agreements that prevented people’s Facebook information from being used for any other purpose than…

... and thus begins a new series of regulations designed to pierce the plausible deniability of "terms of service". People complain about GDPR and other regulations, but they are created to close loopholes that were abused by companies like Facebook.

> People complain about GDPR and other regulations, but they are created to close loopholes that were abused by companies like Facebook

I complain about GDPR because it buttressed Facebook's position [1].

[1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-europes-new-privacy-rules-f...

Re: Why We Disagree with The New York Times

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post #6

The fact that you can't read messages (without switching to 'desktop mode') on their mobile web app is such horse shit. Yuck.

That's what the Messenger app is used for.

Well no... there's nothing technically stopping them from supporting messages on mobile.

This is what they do on mobile:

* Lie to you about how many messages you have

* Ask you to install an app to see those messages

* Upon installing the app, give them permission to mine your data

Re: Why We Disagree with The New York Times

#27

It reads like a long defensive argument, "how else did you expect us to make huge sums of money"? It is exactly as tone-deaf and legalese as you would expect. There is no new information here; Facebook says legal contracts actually protect your data so it can't go anywhere, "just trust us", etc. > These partners signed agreements that prevented people’s Facebook information from being used for any other purpose than…

> from being used for any other purpose than to recreate Facebook-like experiences

> they consent to having psychological experiments performed on them with no further notice

Sounds like the third parties delivered!

The difference between Facebook and a casino is more about the physical limitations of their storefronts than business models.

Re: Why We Disagree with The New York Times

#28

The limited responses so far in this thread only reinforce many companies decisions to pull support for public apis. How many years have developers been complaining that twitter and facebook have been restricting access to apis for 3rd parties, but now all of a sudden they're evil for ever offering apis to begin with?

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Re: Why We Disagree with The New York Times

#29
post #6

The fact that you can't read messages (without switching to 'desktop mode') on their mobile web app is such horse shit. Yuck.

Either that or you can go to the basic version at mbasic.facebook.com for an even poorer (though somewhat better in some senses, like having messages integrated) experience.

Well, it definitely beats having to navigate the desktop version on mobile. Thanks for the link!
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