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Microsoft acquires Github

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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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So which company would you rather buy Github? GitHub wasn't profitable. Would you rather it just disappear?

I must ask, if it wasn't profitable on Sunday what changes today?

They have access to MS' enterprise sales and support pipeline.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Seeing GitHub acquired, I can’t help but imagine that Gitlab would go that route sooner or later. Their free offering is even more extensive than GitHub’s, and I don’t think there’s visibility into whether their revenue from paid plans is enough to offset that. Since becoming backed by a major player is both a blessing (cash reserves to fuel the free offering!) and a curse (drive to increase shareholder value could g…

For Terraform integration you might be interested in https://github.com/runatlantis/atlantis no affiliation, just a fan of the project

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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I am a GitLab user and have been for about 2 years now. With that being said, I think this acquisition makes a ton of sense strategically. Microsoft has really been trying to change their identity from being a stuffy close-source corporation to an open company that developers can rely on. And they have done pretty well at this. They open sourced .net, run MS SQL on Linux, and have released the WSL (which would have b…

It may make a ton of sense strategically for Microsoft and Github but it doesn't make an ounce of sense strategically for me.

So long github.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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I guess I shouldn't be surprised that come Monday morning all the reasonable critiques are buried at the bottom of the page and all the GitHub + MS love is upvoted to the top, hyping up all the "amazing business synergies". Multibillion dollar mergers like this are huge things, especially for with a big player acquiring a smaller beloved brand like GitHub. Makes one wonder how many of those leaks over the past week w…

Since you're up here, maybe link to what you see as reasonable critiques?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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> how is embracing a closed source for-profit company anything to do with embracing Open Source? Truly embracing open-source with .NET core would mean that, yes, even a proprietary product could make use of it. A debugger is extremely core to having a language being open-source and artificially limiting it to your own products is the exact opposite of 'embrace' Also, JetBrains does have an open-source debugger in the…

By that token Richard Stalman doesn't embrace open source. The Linux kernel isn't open source. Anything that is GPL is not open source, because you can't make proprietary code from GPL code.

GPL spells this out and gives you the source, if requested. It does not make any restrictions as to on what platform you can use it or anything like that. Microsoft released .NET Core under a permissive license which does allow integration with proprietary code and then specifically limited use of the debugger to their own products. Even other open-source projects, beside VS Code, cannot use the debugger. That is everything that the GPL is not.

This is like if Stallman released Emacs under the GPL, but kept the Elisp interpreter proprietary.

My problem is; if you're going to pretend to embrace open-source and then limit a core component this arbitrarily, you're not embracing open-source, you're still the old org afraid of competition.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Why would Github be any harder for the NSA to coerce than Microsoft?

Because Github, unlike Microsoft is not particularly dependant on US government contracts.

NSA doesn't have to ask, so this is a moot point.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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It may sound like a harsh statement, but exactly because corporations are not like people, they seem to be harder to change, in my opinion. I'm not saying Microsoft can't change, but it's easy to forget that the main goal of any corporation is profit, specially when it's so big.

I think the profit motive is exactly why change happens. As soon as a company realizes it can make more $$$ with new strategy B than their original strategy A, then boom -- changed. (Sometimes you have to get rid of the old believers, but that already happened at Microsoft.) If you look at MSFT's stock price, it's ~tripled since Satya became CEO, after being stagnant for years. He seems incredibly committed to open-s…

> I think the profit motive is exactly why change happens.

I agree. They don't actually care about open source it's purely because it's profitable to their business. They'll close it without caring if it's not making them enough money or good will.

But I still hope this works. As long as maintaining open source projects is profitable to Microsoft then it gives incentives for other FLOSS projects to show that if such an anti open source company as Microsoft is willing to embrace it then there's good reasons to join in.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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LinkedIn still exists and still seems to think they are a separate company. Rumor has it that Satya is furious he still gets so many LinkedIn emails, but is keeping hands off.

> Rumor has it that Satya is furious he still gets so many LinkedIn emails, but is keeping hands off. Well, he's exhibiting far more self control than I would be able to. Linked-in has the worst email practices of any legitimate company I can think of.

But their email spam can be contained. It took me a couple of years but now they have gone almost completely silent.

Maybe it's ageism?!?! ;-)

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Friendly reminder: Skype was pure garbage before MS acquired it. I have no idea from where people got the idea that MS ruined Skype. Started the browser wars? Too bad the browser wars have been too small, because we obviously haven't learned anything from them.

> Skype was pure garbage before MS acquired it. You have a weird memory. Skype was a very nice thing back in ~2009-2010.

maybe its call quality was better, but its client has been garbage all the way back to the msn messenger days.
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