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Microsoft acquires Github

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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by rkangel »

nimbius wrote: post #117

Friendly reminder: this is the same Microsoft that "empowered" skype and once called open source a cancer. Its the same Microsoft that ruined open document standards and started the browser wars. I wouldnt be surprised to see next years release of "Github Pro Platinum with Minecraft 3D and Windows Store integration" For those looking to move, https://gitlab.com is an excellent open source alternative that can easily…

> once called open source a cancer

There are some really good arguments as to why we should be worried about Microsoft so can we please stop ruining them by using this complete misquote as a component.

This comment covers it well:

> This is disingenuous. He was referring to the licensing model of certain open-source projects, where the introduction of a single line of code coming from an open source project would require the whole of the Windows stack to be open-source, effectively "contaminating" the rest of the stack. To this day this is still a problem to many companies and legal department must carefully review the licensing of the libraries used by their devs.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17225806

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by Delmania »

codedokode wrote: post #547
Delmania wrote: post #425

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? How is it spying when they present you with a full screen detailing data collection with the option to turn it off, and have several blog posts providing details. > Do they not engage in patents racketeering? It's not much of an excuse, but all tech companies do this. > Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? Didn't they give Windows Mobile one hell of a run? Like they tr…

Telemetry and analytics is a spyware. Let me give you an example. Let's say that Windows collects information on which applications were run and how much time they were used. Now let's say there is a competitor to Microsoft that uses Windows with telemetry option. Even if the data is anonymous, Microsoft can filter it by range of competitor's IP addresses. Then by stuyding the list of used applications they can learn…

You do realize that by posting that link, you contradicted yourself? How many Microsoft be spying on you if they write articles detailing what data is collected?

If you don't like data collection, then don't use Windows 10. Plenty of Microsoft tools work on macOS and Linux. But don't accuse them of spying on the user when they have made efforts to be transparent about it.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by steveeq1 »

People seem to be making a big deal about this. What is the controversy surrounding microsoft acquiring github? I mean, it's one big, evil corporation taking over another, so what's the difference?

Not trying to troll, I just don't know the negatives from this. I have a github account and want to know if there's a valid reason to move it.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by merinowool »

zachruss92 wrote: post #27

I am a GitLab user and have been for about 2 years now. With that being said, I think this acquisition makes a ton of sense strategically. Microsoft has really been trying to change their identity from being a stuffy close-source corporation to an open company that developers can rely on. And they have done pretty well at this. They open sourced .net, run MS SQL on Linux, and have released the WSL (which would have b…

I think the move is to spy on private projects and use insider knowledge to launch their new products.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by walrus01 »

Microsoft wants monthly recurring revenue from services. They could care less in the year 2018 if you run Windows Server or Debian or CentOS or RHEL on an Azure VM, if you're paying $250 a month for it, they're happy either way.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by TAForObvReasons »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #355
strogonoff wrote: post #305

Seeing GitHub acquired, I can’t help but imagine that Gitlab would go that route sooner or later. Their free offering is even more extensive than GitHub’s, and I don’t think there’s visibility into whether their revenue from paid plans is enough to offset that. Since becoming backed by a major player is both a blessing (cash reserves to fuel the free offering!) and a curse (drive to increase shareholder value could g…

> Seeing GitHub acquired, I’d speculate that Gitlab will go that route sooner or later. Bingo. It's bizarre to hear people stampeding to GitLab when they're subject to the same financial and revenue pressures as GitHub or any other business. Somebody's paying for those servers and bandwidth and that somebody is expecting a return on their investment.

The difference is that Gitlab has publicly stated, from the beginning, that the goal is an IPO:

> Stay independent so we can preserve our values. Since we took external investment we need a liquidity event. To stay independent we want that to be an IPO instead of being acquired.

https://about.gitlab.com/strategy/

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by hvo »

Arnt wrote: post #106

I reported a bug in a Microsoft product earlier this year, one whose only effect was to complicate interop with a minor opensource competitor. They handled that fairly, promptly and well. Microsoft isn't the same company as ten and twenty years ago.

"Microsoft isn't the same company as ten and twenty years ago."I notice this as well. But I am trying to figure out how Microsoft will manage GitHub. Is GitHub going to be a standalone company within Microsoft or a significant part of its enterprise division? What folks here are not talking about is how Microsoft handles LinkedIn after acquisition.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by leeter »

sleavey wrote: post #577
codetrotter wrote: post #15

> And Microsoft is all-in on open source. We have been on a journey with open source, and today we are active in the open source ecosystem, we contribute to open source projects, and some of our most vibrant developer tools and frameworks are open source. When it comes to our commitment to open source, judge us by the actions we have taken in the recent past, our actions today, and in the future. It’s a fair point bu…

I'd believe them if they open sourced Windows. They could still keep their web platforms (Office365, Azure, etc.) closed but it would be a huge statement to open up Windows 10. (Never going to happen, not just for philosophical reasons, but I'm sure legal reasons too)

I think the biggest issue would be the audit. Recall that NT started out as part of OS/2 which is owned by IBM. I suspect that Edge/IE has similar issues, because it was evolved from NCSA Mosaic it probably has legal issues preventing it from being open sourced.

I know for a fact that the ZIP component of the windows shell would be an issue as that is definitely licensed to Microsoft instead of being owned by.

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