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Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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Simple question about these (great) posters : whats their legal statuts regarding IP ? Possible use for commercial purpose ? Obligation to mention the source ? I'd love to use them for presentation about security. Any link to information about that would be very welcome too.

I was going to ask the same - and it seems they're essentially public domain.

I'm going to paint a few of these on ten foot high canvasses, to adorn the lair.

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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what on earth is with the black telephone hanging by a noose? some of these are pretty interesting.

"Hang up the phone."

Spot the person who spent their childhood watching https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catchphrase_(UK_game_show)

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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Might be tangibly related -- and honestly I have no dog in this fight -- but it seems that a certain sect of our political parties really are trying to eliminate or counter the narrative that America was founded on Judeo-Christian values must have complete blinders on when it comes to history of this country, and just flipping through some posters from the 50's and 60s made it very apparent that it was the prevailing value in this country. Say what you want for bigotry, the patriarchy, or whathaveyounot, but you cannot deny the impact, and the unifying value system this country used to all share which is yet another reason, among many, for the large divisions in our society today.

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ivan is an atheist, you see. This way we all know we aren’t soviet. I’m reasonably convinced that explains a fair bit of the “we are very publicly religions”part of the 1950s.

You're exactly right. Religion was used as a foil against Communism in the Cold War. It was the Good Christian USA vs the Evil Atheist USSR. "In God We Trust" was adopted as the official motto of the USA in 1956. "under God" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954. Regarding putting "In God We Trust" on currency, Representative Charles E Bennett said "In these days when imperialistic and materialistic communism…

"In god we trust" was a swipe against the UK monarchy. The US government rejects rule "By the Grace of God". In most western monarchies God anoints kings and queens. But God has no role in picking the president. The root of power in the US is "the people". Those people trust that God could step in if needed, but they don't expect God to play the active role he does in monarchy.

Given that historical context, it is funny to see the phrase now used to support religion.

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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Some trippy posters in there. My favorite was the one where all of the NSA employees had lock mouths. I was surprised how religious some of these were, beyond just "Merry Christmas, don't forget about security" e.g "Christian ideals created freedom"

If you think the Santa ones are religious, wait 'til you scroll down to the one that reads "Men must be governed by God or they will be ruled by tyrants".

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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post #83

Might be tangibly related -- and honestly I have no dog in this fight -- but it seems that a certain sect of our political parties really are trying to eliminate or counter the narrative that America was founded on Judeo-Christian values must have complete blinders on when it comes to history of this country, and just flipping through some posters from the 50's and 60s made it very apparent that it was the prevailing…

I probably shouldn't bother, but-

America was founded by a bunch of Christians, and some of the country's construction surely was influenced by that.

However America was NOT founded as a Christian state.

Where the left & right butt heads over this is usually when, for example, pro-lifers say "God clearly forbids abortion and America is a Christian state so our laws must follow the Bible", and pro-choicers say "Uh, no, this is not a Christian state, the Bible does not set our laws".

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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You know,the scary thing about the US intelligence community isn't that they all are "after out liberties" or "againsy our privacy". My experience and encounters related to the IC scare me because they genuinely believe they're the good guys who're on the right side of justice. The real scary part is that they are scared of what will happen if they don't do something (where something entails disregarding laws and the…

>You know,the scary thing about the US intelligence community isn't that they all are "after out liberties" or "againsy our privacy". My experience and encounters related to the IC scare me because they genuinely believe they're the good guys who're on the right side of justice. The real scary part is that they are scared of what will happen if they don't do something (where something entails disregarding laws and the will of the people). I would rather they be "after me" than scared of me.

>I hope academics consider this before getting into bed with them. They don't just have a subersive mission,they're making decisions out of fear.

sed 's/ US intelligence community/Commies/g'

sed 's/ US intelligence community/Hippies/g'

sed 's/ US intelligence community/Liberals/g'

sed 's/ US intelligence community/Mormons/g'

sed 's/ US intelligence community/4chan/g'

sed 's/ US intelligence community/OP/g'

sed 's/ US intelligence community/The alt right/g'

sed 's/ US intelligence community/BLM/g'

sed 's/ US intelligence community/white supremacists/g'

sed 's/ US intelligence community/academia/g'

sed 's/ US intelligence community/the tech industry/g'

sed 's/ US intelligence community/whatever group I happen to disagree with today/g'

See the point? You could have said that about any group you didn't like.

In my opinion any individual or group seeking to restrict the freedoms of the individual is inherently subversive to democracy.

edit: And I'm wrong because why?

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always wondered how the political right in the West ended up with such seemingly odd bedfellows as capitalism and religion. e.g., the Jesus of stories seems like a potentially Socialist sort? A friend of mine thought that it was likely that the pairing was a reaction to the communism and atheism of the USSR.

This is a common strand within protestantism, imported from northern Europe into the United States. It is quite at odds with the catholic view of things and with what Jesus is reported to have said in the bible.

The Calvinist work ethic is less Jesus and more Old Testament: you were born into sin, you live under the Curse of God, and you'd better work as hard as you can every day and shun vice or you'll go to hell.
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